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    Default State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    Anyone see this?? PSP to get the 45 GAP??



    http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...90349/0/NEWS05

    Pennsylvania State Police are phasing out their old firearms and getting new, higher-caliber weapons.

    State police in Erie's Troop E are being trained with a new pistol, the .45-caliber Glock Model 37, through the end of October, troop spokesman Cpl. Mark Zaleski said.

    The change is necessary after Gov. Ed Rendell approved an increase in the size of the state police force in May 2006, said Sgt. David Pallone, supervisor of planning and analysis in the State Police Bureau of Research and Development who oversaw the selection of the new weapon

    The previous weapon, the .40-caliber Beretta Grenadier 96D, was out of production, and the state police needed a uniform weapon, Pallone said. The Berettas were near the end of their commission, Pallone said.

    "We were able to facilitate it pretty quickly because our firearms were aging and we were looking at what was available in the market and testing some weapons," Pallone said.


    Selecting the new weapon took almost a year of testing and trials with state troopers, Pallone said. He said the Glock was the most popular gun among the troopers.

    "What I like about it is that it's a larger caliber, a heavier bullet, and it's a faster bullet," said Cpl. Mark Amato, who helped Pallone select the new pistol.

    Though the caliber is larger, the gun is smaller and more manageable, Pallone said.

    The Glock has a slimmer grip and shorter trigger pull, making it easier to fire for a wider range of hand sizes. A polymer frame, as opposed to the Beretta's steel frame, also makes the Glock a lighter weapon, Pallone said.

    The Glock also has less perceived recoil, despite the larger round, Pallone said.

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    This isn't new news by far.
    I'm not too convinced the .45 GAP is the way to go. .45GAP isn't too cheap and a Glock 30 (.45ACP) would do the job.
    Of course, maybe .45GAP will get as popular as .40S&W.

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyJackson View Post
    This isn't new news by far.
    I'm not too convinced the .45 GAP is the way to go. .45GAP isn't too cheap and a Glock 30 (.45ACP) would do the job.
    Of course, maybe .45GAP will get as popular as .40S&W.
    they'd never go to a glock 30, thats the compact 45acp, maybe the glock 21, but the gap has just about the same ballistics but less of a punch than a 45acp round..

    we'll find out how it does soon enough, but i think it will handle good, and its nice to see they went to glocks.

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    does this mean a flood of 96d's on the used market?

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    good chance! I always wanted a Baretta


    Glock Pistols.......So simple a Caveman could fix them!

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    Quote Originally Posted by markheck1 View Post
    good chance! I always wanted a Baretta
    Quote Originally Posted by c.sander View Post
    does this mean a flood of 96d's on the used market?
    Thinking this myself guys, where would we look to snag one up??

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Thinking this myself guys, where would we look to snag one up??
    I think I heard the troopers are getting first dibs, and it seems most are buying them up and selling them on their own. hopefully we run into a lot of them though

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    Yes, most duty pistols are in very good condition - At least the Glocks I have seen.. The blue slides may not have held up as well - but I am sure the internals would be excellent and all parts would be in 100% working order..

    I am surprised to see the 45 gap - unless they get a deal on ammo.. Or maybe they will not have to compete with the IRAQ WAR needs for ammo.. ??

    9mm / 45acp / 223

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    Ok as far as I know,,

    The GAP is not doing well in civilian sales. Ok sales stink big time. It follows that GAP ammo sales are not what you would call brisk. Glock is deeply discounting guns and ammo in GAP to LEO outfits. Shortly ago the NY state troopers did a buy on 4GAP. Yes the external ballistics on the GAP are very close to the ballistics on the ACP.



    Quote Originally Posted by nra-life-member View Post
    Yes, most duty pistols are in very good condition - At least the Glocks I have seen.. The blue slides may not have held up as well - but I am sure the internals would be excellent and all parts would be in 100% working order..

    I am surprised to see the 45 gap - unless they get a deal on ammo.. Or maybe they will not have to compete with the IRAQ WAR needs for ammo.. ??

    9mm / 45acp / 223

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    Default Re: State police to get new guns - 45 GAP!

    The troopers are getting a really good price on them. I can't wait to see what they end up for on gunbroker and other online gun auctions. They have a PSP insignia on them.
    Jules

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