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    Default HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    Forced Vaccinations - HB 492 - The General Assembly of Pennsylvania - Session of 2009 - Emergency Health Powers and Procedures - authorizes on the basis of one man's opinion - the governor - forced medical examinations, forced isolations and quarantines, forced relocations, prohibitions of firearms, and forced vaccinations. See attached copy of legislation and please do not miss the following:


    "The public health authority may, for such period as the state of public health emergency exists, compel a person to be vaccinated"

    - HB 492, Pg. 28, Line 29 to Pg. 29, Line 3


    "A person who fails to comply with this section commits a misdemeanor of the third degree."

    - HB 492, Pg. 29, Lines 20-21


    "The public health authority shall have the power to enforce the provisions of this article through the imposition of fines and penalties, the issuance of orders and such other remedies as are provided by law."

    - HB 492, Pg. 36, Lines 22-25


    Based on the above, it appears that a patient who refuses vaccination may be incarcerated and fined under the above provisions. Further, scientific evidence is now clear that vaccines can and have done harm to the patient and have even caused death. If the vaccination actually harms the patient, government officials and health care providers are exempt from civil damages except in cases of gross negligence or willful misconduct, facts very difficult to prove.


    "State immunity.-Neither the Commonwealth, its political subdivisions, nor, except in cases of gross negligence or willful misconduct, the Governor, the public health authority or any other State official referenced in this article shall be liable for the death of or any injury to persons or damage to property as a result of complying with or attempting to comply with this article or any rule or regulations promulgated pursuant to this article." - HB 492, Pg. 38, Lines 5-12



    "During a state of public health emergency, no private person, firm or corporation and employees and agents of such person, firm or corporation in the performance of a contract with and under the direction of the Commonwealth or its political subdivisions under the provisions of this article shall be civilly liable for causing the death of or injury to any person or damage to any property except in the event of gross negligence or willful misconduct." - HB 492, Pg. 38, Line 25 to Pg. 39 Line 2


    The State also assumes the power to destroy property and as was just referenced, the Commonwealth nor any of its agents can be held accountable or liable for damages. This provision violates the clear


    rule that private property cannot be taken for public use without just compensation.


    "The public health authority shall, for examination purposes, close, evacuate or decontaminate any facility or decontaminate or destroy any material when the authority reasonably suspects that such facility or material may endanger the public health."

    - HB 492, Pg. 12, Lines 3-7


    The State's emergency powers further include the power . . .


    "to control, restrict and regulate by rationing and using quotas, prohibitions on shipments, price fixing, allocation or other means, the use, sale, dispensing, distribution or transportation of food, fuel, clothing and other commodities, alcoholic beverages, firearms, explosives and combustibles"


    HB 492, Pg. 18, Lines 18-24


    Similar legislation was introduced in Massachusetts and made national news and has met with much resistance.


    Please help get the word out about this.


    Thanks


    Samuel J. Granata III

    Greensburg
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    WAKE UP OR WACO!

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    Default Re: HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    For those interested, the bill in question can be read as a .PDF here, and you can find its sponsor's contact information here.

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    Default Re: HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    This guy, a Democrat, must be certifiably insane!
    All you folks in his district need to give him a call and voice your displeasure.
    Well, pushed 60 too hard so now I am the big SIX-OH. Now I can be a real pain in the ass! And, who says growin' old isn't fun!!

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    Just had a nice long conversation with Rep. Smith's secretary. She sounded like she was used to making excuses over this! CALL CALL CALL! WRITE WRITE WRITE!

    Jack

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    Default Re: HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    i'm not exactly sure where "the line" is...

    but the government attempting to forcibly stick a needle in me is definitely over it.

    i doubt this bill has any chance to even make it to a vote, though. (note that it has been sitting in committee since february.)
    F*S=k

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    Default Re: HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    btw, here is the list of co-sponsors.

    be sure never to vote for these people:

    K. SMITH, BELFANTI, BRENNAN, BUXTON, CALTAGIRONE, FRANKEL, GEORGE, KOTIK, LONGIETTI, MANDERINO, MURT, M. O'BRIEN, SANTONI, SIPTROTH, STURLA, THOMAS, YOUNGBLOOD, YUDICHAK, MAHONEY, PAYTON, WANSACZ and McILVAINE SMITH

    (figures frankel is on the list...that guy is pure evil. he and doug sheilds both. squirrel hill is such a nice neighborhood--but it spawns some of the most repugnant, anti-individual-rights politicians the USA has ever seen.)

    from: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...&type=B&bn=492
    F*S=k

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    Default Re: HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota View Post
    btw, here is the list of co-sponsors.

    be sure never to vote for these people:

    K. SMITH, BELFANTI, BRENNAN, BUXTON, CALTAGIRONE, FRANKEL, GEORGE, KOTIK, LONGIETTI, MANDERINO, MURT, M. O'BRIEN, SANTONI, SIPTROTH, STURLA, THOMAS, YOUNGBLOOD, YUDICHAK, MAHONEY, PAYTON, WANSACZ and McILVAINE SMITH

    (figures frankel is on the list...that guy is pure evil. he and doug sheilds both. squirrel hill is such a nice neighborhood--but it spawns some of the most repugnant, anti-individual-rights politicians the USA has ever seen.)

    from: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...&type=B&bn=492
    As a side note, please remember that not everyone that co-sponsers a bill does so because they support it. Some do it as a means to track it's progress. Just saying let's not jump these people without finding out their positions on this bill.
    The 2nd amendment is the RESET BUTTON on the constitution.
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    Last edited by Dodahdude; November 6th, 2009 at 08:44 PM.
    I will not remove my AVATAR until this threat is over. One down, four up.

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    Default Re: HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota View Post
    i'm not exactly sure where "the line" is...

    but the government attempting to forcibly stick a needle in me is definitely over it.
    Agreed. Definitely over the line.

    Part of the problem may be the fact that no one is exactly sure where "the line" is. It's (long past) time for people to speak up and let the .gov know that garbage like this is, indeed, way over it. And by people I mean everyone, not just gun owners.

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    Default Re: HB.492 BAD NEWS FOR US!!

    saw this the other day, it's been in committee for a coupla months now hasn't it?

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