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    anybody have any experience with this ak is all the bling worth it any input would be nice
    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=150524022

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    That is one seriously ugly rifle!!
    Too much "tacticool" crap on it for me.
    Well, pushed 60 too hard so now I am the big SIX-OH. Now I can be a real pain in the ass! And, who says growin' old isn't fun!!

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    i wanna switch out the reflex sight for a holo sight but i would like to know if that would be considered a good ak for the money i have no experience with rifles any input would be good towards the actual rifle

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    looks heavy with all that crap on it. I prefer light and maneuverable for something like an AK, which i don't have.

    My AR has a fore grip, that's it. I've been thinking about a light, but just haven't gotten around to it.

    It just doesn't seem right to have a pistol grip and a bipod and a laser and a light and a reflex sight. that crap just doesn't go together. Either
    (foregrip and (light or laser or reflex))
    or
    (bipod and (reflex or scope or iron sights))

    If i'm going for a long range tack driver, heavy doesn't matter, but i'm still not putting all that crap on it.

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    I am not familiar with that exact rifle, but it appears to be a typical kit build on a Nodak reciever. Nothing special as far as the rifle itself goes.

    As for all that Chinese junk bolted onto it:

    That is nothing but a run of the mill AK with a couple hundred dollars of UTG and Tapcrapco parts bolted onto it, not worth even close to their price IMO.

    A $450 AK tops, with $350 tops in worthless trinkets.

    Even if you are looking for something as ghetto as that thing, you can save a few hundred bucks by starting with a plain old WASR and then hitting the net for the do-dads. All of that stuff is user friendly to install and can be had pretty cheap by looking around the net.


    If you want a truely decent AK and are willing to fork out a grand, there are far far better choices out there.
    Look for an Arsenal gun, way better as far as quality, made with new parts, not hacked up parts kits.

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    i wanted one of those saiga sgl21-66 from kvar but i have the funds for it come income tax and that sale they had just keeps jumpin up on me.if any body can give me a good word of where to look for something in the 650 range it would be greatly appreciated

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    Default Re: black widow

    Quote Originally Posted by 39flathead View Post
    I am not familiar with that exact rifle, but it appears to be a typical kit build on a Nodak reciever. Nothing special as far as the rifle itself goes.

    As for all that Chinese junk bolted onto it:

    That is nothing but a run of the mill AK with a couple hundred dollars of UTG and Tapcrapco parts bolted onto it, not worth even close to their price IMO.

    A $450 AK tops, with $350 tops in worthless trinkets.

    Even if you are looking for something as ghetto as that thing, you can save a few hundred bucks by starting with a plain old WASR and then hitting the net for the do-dads. All of that stuff is user friendly to install and can be had pretty cheap by looking around the net.


    If you want a truely decent AK and are willing to fork out a grand, there are far far better choices out there.
    Look for an Arsenal gun, way better as far as quality, made with new parts, not hacked up parts kits.

    There ya go!

    Also I read in the Ad that it says "Original military barrel". Does this mean it's used?

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    Oh My God! What a monstrosity? I hope Mikhail doesnt see this, Please.

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    I wonder how much fun a mag change under stress would be with all that crap hanging out in front.

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    way to much garbage hanging off that thing, only something a mall ninja would go for.

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