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December 14th, 2008, 06:29 PM #1
Some amazing corruption stats
Check out this article... and we wonder why this country is falling apart?
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...NEWS/812140331
CHICAGO — More than 25 years ago, a visiting small-town judge stashed a tape recorder in his cowboy boot and came away with shocking evidence of bribe-taking and bagmen in Chicago's courts.
Former Judge Brocton Lockwood was part of an unprecedented FBI sting operation in the Cook County courts called "Operation Greylord" that uncovered judges, lawyers and clerks taking cash, fixing cases and engaging in other brazen judicial corruption.
The case is a stark example of the corruption that has become a cottage industry in Illinois and contributed to its long history of scoundrels and scandals. Last week, there was an addition to the list: Gov. Rod Blagojevich's arrest on charges that he schemed to auction off President-elect Barack Obama's open Senate seat.
So when the governor was escorted by federal agents from his home in handcuffs, it seemed painfully familiar to Lockwood.
"I thought nothing has changed," the retired judge said. "I'm embarrassed for the state. I'm disappointed for the nation because this is going to divert attention from Obama's efforts to deal with bigger issues than Blagojevich. ... It just makes politics a sleazy business."
Lockwood's puzzlement was echoed by people around the nation as the Blagojevich scandal unfolded: What is it about Illinois that seems to breed political corruption, and why hasn't anyone been able to do anything about it?
Corruption and graft have become so entrenched over the decades that they've become part of the political culture, and experts cite a list of reasons why: Weak state campaign finance laws that have allowed influence peddlers to make big contributions. Lawmakers who don't always get close scrutiny. A patronage system that makes employees beholden to political bosses. And a jaded public that seems to accept chicanery as the cost of doing business.
"The rest of the country kind of grew up and got past the corrupt legislators and urban Machines," said Kent Redfield, a University of Illinois-Springfield political science professor. "The reform-good government movement never got traction in Illinois."
"In some ways, Illinois kind of reminds you of Third World countries where everyone knows to get things done you have to bribe someone every step of the way," he added.
The state's history of rogues and crooks ranges from a long-ago secretary of state who died leaving hundreds of thousands of dollars mysteriously stashed in shoeboxes in his hotel closet to a judge who took money to fix murder cases. Former governors, congressmen, aldermen, and state and city workers have all gone to prison.
"If it isn't the most corrupt state in the United States, it's certainly one hell of a competitor," Chicago FBI chief Robert D. Grant said when the charges were announced against Blagojevich.
The top competitors seem to be New Jersey and Louisiana. More than 130 public officials in New Jersey have been found guilty of federal corruption in the past seven years.
And Louisiana more than holds its own. A congressman once described the state this way: "Half of Louisiana is under water, and the other half is under indictment."
Louisiana also is known from its flamboyant governors, from Huey Long to Edwin Edwards, who is now sitting in prison for his involvement in a scheme to rig riverboat casino licensing.
But no state is immune.
Nationwide, more than 1,800 federal, state and local officials have been convicted of public corruption in the last two years, according to FBI statistics released this spring. The number of pending cases has jumped by 51 percent since 2003, the agency said. In the last decade or so, the governors of Louisiana, Connecticut and Rhode Island have pleaded guilty or been convicted of wrongdoing.
But in Illinois, especially in Chicago, graft has been so rampant it's become part of the folklore. In "Boss," the unauthorized biography of the late Mayor Richard J. Daley, Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist Mike Royko suggested the city change its official motto, "Urbs in Horto" or "City in a Garden" to "Ubi Est Mea?" or "Where's Mine?"
That was more than 35 years ago, but the problem still persists.
"It seems to me that corruption in Illinois is incorrigible," said Ron Safer, former head of the criminal division at the U.S. attorney's office and now in private practice. "Why does someone who has achieved the public acclaim and success that results in them attaining public office risk losing everything for money? It is impossible for me to understand."
Jay Stewart, head of the Better Government Association, believes efforts to downplay corruption are wrongheaded.
"I don't look at convictions in our state and argue there are just a few bad apples," he said. "The public believes there's a problem and it's a systemic problem. But they feel powerless and unable to change it. ... I think people view it as blood sport ... and they throw up their hands and say it's just entertainment."
There have been reforms in the state, most notably a new ethics law designed to limit the impact of money in politics. It was approved only after Obama, a former state senator, called his one-time mentor, Senate President Emil Jones, and urged its passage.
Blagojevich vetoed it, and the Senate overrode him. But in a strange twist, prosecutors say that the law may have been Blagojevich's undoing, alleging that he carried out many of his misdeeds to beat its Jan. 1 implementation.
Illinois has long been known as the "Wild West" of campaign finance, with virtually no limits on who can contribute and how much. The new law prohibits people with state contracts of $50,000 or more from contributing to the politicians who administer them, or to their opponents in an election year.
But Redfield, the political science professor, acknowledges the measure is a narrow prohibition and reflects how hard it is to make sweeping reforms.
"Instead of comprehensive changes that really change the system, the prevailing attitude in the legislature often is what's the minimum we can do to fix it," he said.The first vehicles normally on the scene of a crime are ambulances and police cruisers. If you are armed you have a chance to decide who gets transported in which vehicle, if you are not armed then that decision is made for you.
Be prepared, because someone else already is and no one knows their intent except them.
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December 14th, 2008, 08:17 PM #2
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But remember obama is bringing change, he is taking all of his Chicago political friends and having them set up shop in DC, see no more graft in Chicago it will all be in DC
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Re: Some amazing corruption stats
I have always said that I want to see how the stats shake out on corruption vs. geographically where there are strict anti-gun laws.
Then, if there is any real correlation. (Statistically, that is.)It is you. You have all the weapons that you need. Now fight. --Sucker Punch
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December 15th, 2008, 01:09 AM #4
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well you can argue that NJ and Illinois are in the top 5 for gun laws, California has them beat I think and if we include Washington DC and Mass its an unpleasant top 5 but we know New Jersey and Illinois are way up there and Washing DC is as corrupt as they come, now questions there...
so yeah I would stay statistically the more gun control is also the more corruptionThe first vehicles normally on the scene of a crime are ambulances and police cruisers. If you are armed you have a chance to decide who gets transported in which vehicle, if you are not armed then that decision is made for you.
Be prepared, because someone else already is and no one knows their intent except them.
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December 15th, 2008, 12:49 PM #5
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Amazing? none of what was in that article suprises me in the least. Not even obama trying to get Chicago cleaned up, but not until after he left of course. Can't be taking away your own source of income now can you?
Warning: I may not read responses to OP before posting
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December 15th, 2008, 12:50 PM #6
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No surprise at all.
I wager it is well worse than the article points out._________________________________________
danbus wrote: ...Like I said before, I open carry because you don't, I fight for all my rights because
you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
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December 16th, 2008, 10:49 AM #7
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The first vehicles normally on the scene of a crime are ambulances and police cruisers. If you are armed you have a chance to decide who gets transported in which vehicle, if you are not armed then that decision is made for you.
Be prepared, because someone else already is and no one knows their intent except them.
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December 17th, 2008, 01:40 AM #8
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January 11th, 2010, 10:25 AM #9
Re: Some amazing corruption stats
CHICAGO — Ousted Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich says he's "blacker than Barack Obama" and tells Esquire magazine that he was a real person in a political arena dominated by phonies.
Blagojevich, referring to the president as "this guy," says Obama was elected based simply on hope.
"What the (expletive)? Everything he's saying's on the teleprompter," Blagojevich told the magazine for a story in its February issue, which hits newsstands Jan. 19.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6808738.html
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