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    Default Re: ABC inferring some link between Binghamton massacre and gun sales boom?

    Well of course.....Assault Ban Conspirators

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    New York is almost as bad as New Jersey when it comes to buying a handgun...you can't just go out and buy one, you need a pistol permit first, although the NY hoops can be jumped through, unlike NJ's.

    At any rate, they are still a hassle to get, and only allow you to possess the gun at home or your place of business. If you want to move it around, let's say for target practice, you must get a carry permit. You first get, with some difficulty, a restricted permit. Depending on the county (Broome is among them), you must take a defensive course, hot fire, before the judge will even consider removing your restrictions.

    Yesterday's shooter was found to have a permit for the two weapons that he had, dating to the mid 1990's; no carry permit.

    Many NY counties limit the number of permits issues (just to purchase a handgun!), so no, gun sales are NOT going crazy in NY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wa3ra View Post
    New York is almost as bad as New Jersey when it comes to buying a handgun...you can't just go out and buy one, you need a pistol permit first, although the NY hoops can be jumped through, unlike NJ's.

    At any rate, they are still a hassle to get, and only allow you to possess the gun at home or your place of business. If you want to move it around, let's say for target practice, you must get a carry permit. You first get, with some difficulty, a restricted permit. Depending on the county (Broome is among them), you must take a defensive course, hot fire, before the judge will even consider removing your restrictions.

    Yesterday's shooter was found to have a permit for the two weapons that he had, dating to the mid 1990's; no carry permit.

    Many NY counties limit the number of permits issues (just to purchase a handgun!), so no, gun sales are NOT going crazy in NY.
    Upstate NY is no problem for me. I just tell the Gander Mountain that I happen to be in to ship it to Dickson City. Works every time. Of course, getting them to admit then that they received it at Dickson City and not having one of their associates try to skeeve my bargain away from me is quite another thing!

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    I actually don't think this article is that bad. Anyhow, the 20/20 special "If I Only Had a Gun" is coming out Friday and I'm hopeful it will be mostly positive. Diane Sawyer's doing it but I think John Stossel will be helping out. I think Stossel's a hack journalist, an intellectual lightweight, and subscribes to a pretty shallow vision of Libertarianism, but he's good on the gun issue, no doubt about it.
    "When law becomes despotic, morals are relaxed, and vice versa."-- Honore de Balzac, The Wild Ass's Skin...huh, huh..Balzac...Wild Ass...huh, huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by wa3ra View Post
    New York is almost as bad as New Jersey when it comes to buying a handgun...you can't just go out and buy one, you need a pistol permit first, although the NY hoops can be jumped through, unlike NJ's.

    At any rate, they are still a hassle to get, and only allow you to possess the gun at home or your place of business. If you want to move it around, let's say for target practice, you must get a carry permit. You first get, with some difficulty, a restricted permit. Depending on the county (Broome is among them), you must take a defensive course, hot fire, before the judge will even consider removing your restrictions.

    Yesterday's shooter was found to have a permit for the two weapons that he had, dating to the mid 1990's; no carry permit.

    Many NY counties limit the number of permits issues (just to purchase a handgun!), so no, gun sales are NOT going crazy in NY.
    You are correct. NY state is close to being the poster child of what the anti's want to accomplish nationwide short of an outright ban, yet this still happened.

    Criminals and nutjobs will always be able to get guns, and if guns are banned, it will be that much easier for a criminal or nutjob to illegally get a gun on the black market as it will explode just like during the prohibition of alcohol.

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    I have heard three different instances where they talk about how Mr. Wong spent about once a week practicing shooting at the range. That pisses me off too. What does that really have to do with anything?
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