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    Default Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'

    To quote a famous phrase: "It looks like this could be the end..."


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    Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'
    Oct 29 12:09 PM US/Eastern
    By ERICA WERNER
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    WASHINGTON (AP) - After months of struggle, House Democrats unveiled sweeping legislation Thursday to extend health care coverage to millions who lack it and create a new option of government-run insurance. A vote is likely next week on the plan patterned closely on President Barack Obama's own.
    Speaking on the steps of the Capitol, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Congress was "on the cusp of delivering on the promise of making affordable, quality health insurance available to every American."

    Officials said the measure, once fully phased-in over several years, would extend coverage to 96 percent of Americans. Its principal mechanism is creation of a new government-regulated insurance "exchange" where private companies would sell policies in competition with the government. Federal subsidies would be available to millions of lower-income individuals and families to help them afford the policies, and to small businesses as an incentive to offer coverage to their workers.

    Large firms would be required to cover workers, and most individuals would be required to carry insurance.

    The ceremony marked a pivotal moment in Democrats' yearlong attempt to answer Obama's call for legislation to remake the nation's health care system by extending insurance, ending industry practices such as denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions, and slowing the growth of medical spending nationwide.

    Across the Capitol, Senate Democrats, too, are hoping to pass legislation by year's end. Legislation outlined by Majority Leader Harry Reid earlier this week would include an option for a government-run plan, although states could drop out if they wished, a provision not in the House measure.

    Obama issued a statement saying House Democrats had reached a "critical milestone" on the road toward a health care overhaul, and singled out the proposed government insurance option. He also said the bill "clearly meets two of the fundamental criteria I have set out: It is fully paid for and will reduce the deficit in the long term."

    Republican reaction was swift and critical.

    Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., head of the Republican Study Committee, issued a statement saying Democrats had produced a "government takeover that will limit choice, competition and innovation in health care while increasing costs and decreasing quality." He said the measure would kill jobs, raise taxes and inflict cuts on a program of private Medicare that provides benefits to millions of seniors.

    GOP leaders long ago decided to oppose the approach requested by Obama and taken by Democrats, and health care is expected to figure in next year's congressional election campaign.

    Democrats issued a statement saying their measure "lowers costs for every patient" and would not add to federal deficits. They put the cost of coverage at under $900 billion over 10 years, a total that didn't include money needed to avoid a scheduled 21 percent cut in doctor fees under Medicare, and omitted other items as well.

    With Republicans expected to oppose the measure unanimously, Pelosi and her lieutenants worked for weeks to resolve differences within the Democratic rank and file.

    The toughest of them covered the terms under which the government insurance option would function. Liberals generally wanted the government to dictate the rates to be paid to doctors, hospitals and other health care providers, with the fee levels linked to Medicare.

    Moderates, fearing the impact on their local hospitals, held out for negotiated rates between the government and private insurers—and won.

    Not all liberals were ready to sign on. Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., a co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, was noncommittal about whether progressives would accept the negotiated rates. "This is not walkaway time and it is not acceptance time," she said.

    Democrats control 256 seats in the House, are overwhelmingly favored to win one special election next week and are competitive for another. As a result, they can afford 30 defections or more on the legislation and still prevail.

    The legislation would be financed by a combination of cuts in planned Medicare spending and an income tax surcharge of 5.4 percent on individuals making at least $500,000 annually and couples making at least $1 million.

    The bill would require nearly everyone by 2013 to sign up for health coverage either through their employer, a government program or the new exchange.

    In the meantime, a temporary government program would help people turned down by private insurers because of medical problems, lawmakers said. After that, insurers no longer could refuse to provide coverage to the sick, nor could they charge more because of poor health of the insured.

    The plan also calls for a significant expansion of Medicaid, the federal-state health program for low-income people. And it would impose a requirement on employers to offer insurance to their workers or face penalties.

    Pelosi and the leadership have yet to work out disputes over abortion services and health care for immigrants, issues that must be settled before the bill can come to a vote.

    Pelosi has also said the bill would strip the health insurance industry of a long-standing exemption from antitrust laws covering market allocation, price fixing and bid rigging. Democratic officials said the bill also would give the Federal Trade Commission authority to look into the health insurance industry at its own initiative. The officials spoke Wednesday on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to pre-empt a formal announcement.

    While precise figures were not immediately available, it appeared the legislation would target the drug industry for more than the $80 billion pharmaceutical firms agreed to contribute toward health care in a deal earlier this year with the White House and key senators. But the industry managed to come away with a provision worth billions: 12 years of market protection for high-tech drugs to combat cancer, Parkinson's and other deadly diseases.

    Medical device makers also took a hit, with a 2.5 percent excise tax on sales of their products that is reported to cost the industry $20 billion over the next decade. A $40 billion fee on those businesses was included in a Senate Finance Committee-approved version of the legislation, but Reid is considering cutting it by as much as half.

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    Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar and Julie Davis contributed to this story.
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    Default Re: Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'

    Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy . HUH !
    Don't blame me ; I voted for an American .

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    Default Re: Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'

    <<In the meantime, a temporary government program would help people turned down by private insurers because of medical problems, lawmakers said. After that, insurers no longer could refuse to provide coverage to the sick, nor could they charge more because of poor health of the insured. >>

    And how long, exactly, do you think that a private corporation could operate without 'charging more because of poor health of the insured', AND 'no longer refuse to provide coverage to the sick'?

    Are they for real? Those lines, in and of themselves, would lead to near instant collapse of ANY private insurance. If I were running a private insurance company, I'd drop that part of the business NOW, before it causes the whole company to go belly-up.

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    Default Re: Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'

    Quote Originally Posted by dsnover View Post
    <<In the meantime, a temporary government program would help people turned down by private insurers because of medical problems, lawmakers said. After that, insurers no longer could refuse to provide coverage to the sick, nor could they charge more because of poor health of the insured. >>

    And how long, exactly, do you think that a private corporation could operate without 'charging more because of poor health of the insured', AND 'no longer refuse to provide coverage to the sick'?

    Are they for real? Those lines, in and of themselves, would lead to near instant collapse of ANY private insurance. If I were running a private insurance company, I'd drop that part of the business NOW, before it causes the whole company to go belly-up.
    This is what they want. Then they have plausible deniability in the demise of private insurance. They gave them a fair chance. It's just that the evil insurance companies couldn't stand up against the righteous taxpayer funded bottomless pit that is gov't insurance.
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    Damn, that witch scares me........
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    Default Re: Scary as hell!

    Quote Originally Posted by subdude View Post
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    Damn, that witch scares me........
    Did you see her Halloween costume?? (this is NOT for the faint of heart)










































    I heard she's trying to be like Barak!
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    Default Re: Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'

    "This is how the Republic dies. To thunderous applause."

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    Default Re: Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'

    If it's so good, why did Congress exempt themselves from it?
    A Republic, if you can keep it.

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    Default Re: Pelosi: New health care bill is 'historic moment'

    Quote Originally Posted by Berks_Iraq_Vet View Post
    If it's so good, why did Congress exempt themselves from it?


    That's RACIST!


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    Default Re: Scary as hell!

    Quote Originally Posted by velkly View Post
    Did you see her Halloween costume?? (this is NOT for the faint of heart)










































    I heard she's trying to be like Barak!
    I think I just went blind.

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