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    Default Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Hi folks! I am sure almost all the guys here know that cops cant just search your car and home etc without a warrant.... I was told recently by a gun store owner that a game commission officer can just go ahead and check your vehicle even with out a warrant. Is this really the case? He said that if there is a suspicion of "poaching" you dont need a warrant to search ANYBODY'S car. Is this really true. Does the 4th amendment break down when it comes to enforcing poaching laws?

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    I have a better question: is there any situation left in the USA where the 4th amendment DOES apply?


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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Quote Originally Posted by BSH View Post
    I have a better question: is there any situation left in the USA where the 4th amendment DOES apply?


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    Took the words right out of my mouth..
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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Quote Originally Posted by jb44336 View Post
    Took the words right out of my mouth..
    It must have been while you were kissing me.

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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Hale View Post
    Hi folks! I am sure almost all the guys here know that cops cant just search your car and home etc without a warrant Or an exigent circumstance ....
    Knowledge is power... familiarize yourself with these exigent circumstances if you have not already done so.

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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Steel City is right. Learn the rules and how they apply. Use your internet google-fung and search the exact words of the phrase he supplied.

    Or spend some dime and talk to an attorney to know exactly how the 4th Amendment is interpreted in those situations.

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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Quote Originally Posted by BSH View Post
    I have a better question: is there any situation left in the USA where the 4th amendment DOES apply?


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    The only way you can exercise that right is the same way they take it from you.
    Last edited by ungawa; August 7th, 2013 at 10:29 AM.

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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCityK9Cop View Post
    Knowledge is power... familiarize yourself with these exigent circumstances if you have not already done so.
    Can you make a post or some sort of list of how it apply's to Pa residents? I would rather read YOUR "unofficial" version than some crap on the internet from a dubious source. I call yours "unofficial" because I don't want people holding YOU liable as you are a cop and it could be misconstrued as legal advice. Lol
    Jimmy cracked corn and HE didn't care! Why should I?

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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Hale View Post
    Hi folks! I am sure almost all the guys here know that cops cant just search your car and home etc without a warrant.... I was told recently by a gun store owner that a game commission officer can just go ahead and check your vehicle even with out a warrant. Is this really the case? He said that if there is a suspicion of "poaching" you dont need a warrant to search ANYBODY'S car. Is this really true. Does the 4th amendment break down when it comes to enforcing poaching laws?
    In answer to your question, yes, as I understand it, the game commission for some reason can do that. My opinion is that really needs to change
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    Default Re: Does the 4th amendment break down when

    I cannot remember all the details, but there was a case a few years ago where the police used the a GC officer to gain access to a property because the police couldn't/wouldn't get a warrant.
    Rules are written in the stone,
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