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    Cool Should journalist clearly disclose their political affiliation?

    I am incensed (beyond words) at the bias in favor of Democrats on MSNBC, CNN and ABC. The line between impartial journalism and party propaganda has been erased.

    Party pundits and politicians are always presented as Joe Blow (D) PA or Sally Smooth (R) PA when they are interviewed for a news segment on all news channels.

    I propose that all media reporters should clearly and unambiguously disclose their party affiliation in much the same way:

    - Keith Olberman (D)
    - Rachel Maddow (D)
    - Dan Rather (D)
    - Sean Hannity (R)
    - Bill O'Reilly (I)

    (STOP: please don't get your panties in a wad over the above list. It is for demonstration purposes only - insert your list of journalists here. OKAY?)

    So that, Joe Average in Podunk, PA clearly understands that a story that is being presented by a recognized media outlet as news is actually identified as commentary/opinion.

    The Fourth Estate is broken and morally not accountable for their actions.

    Traditional media norms of journalistic integrity and the pursuit of truth do NOT translate to the 21st century reality of 24-hour media and unrestricted Internet blogs.

    What would it take to pass FCC regulation/legislation that requires journalist to disclose their political affiliation?

    Would you be in favor of such a requirement?
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    Default Re: Should journalist clearly disclose their political affiliation?

    I think that might be a good idea. At least people would know the slant being presented.

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    (D) Reuters, Lisa von Ahn, news desk editor. Click for details.

    (D) Reuters, Michael Erman, reporter. Click for details.


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    (D) La Stampa, newspaper in Turin, Italy, Paolo Mastrolilli, New York correspondent. Click for details.

    (D) New Delhi Television, Stephen Marks, reporter. Click for details.

    (D) The Korea Daily News, Chang W. Kim, journalist. Click for details.

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    Default Re: Should journalist clearly disclose their political affiliation?

    its certainly not just msnbc, cnn, and abc.... just clicking around my normal sites i frequent, i have yet to see a random news story that disses barak or one that shows sarah in a positive light. all of the ones we see daily just clickin on yahoo or elsewhere are hard left leaners. its almost funny when you walk thru the checkout at walmart.... there were 8 different magazines there, and every one that had an article on her was very negative and slandering. each one with an article on barak was positive and defensive of him..... amazing to me
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    Wow. Nice list.

    Too bad this is not readily disclosed when these folks are "reporting the news".

    My point exactly.

    BTW - are you "Pector55" of the "Pectors" in NH county? I know some is why I'm asking.

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    Default Re: Should journalist clearly disclose their political affiliation?

    I don't think it would change anything because the definitions what it means to be in a party or 'liberal' or 'conservative' are completely dependent on the viewer. Bias is in the eye of the beholder. To some McCain is very conservative but to others he far to liberal.

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    Default Re: Should journalist clearly disclose their political affiliation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tuttle View Post
    Wow. Nice list.

    Too bad this is not readily disclosed when these folks are "reporting the news".

    My point exactly.

    BTW - are you "Pector55" of the "Pectors" in NH county? I know some is why I'm asking.
    lol, Nah, back in the early 90's I used to play video games online with some guys from the gym. I was benching 380 and my last name is Peck so they determined that I needed a "Geek" name for online play so they made me change my gamer name from "Peck" to "Pector55" to fit in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyo View Post
    I don't think it would change anything because the definitions what it means to be in a party or 'liberal' or 'conservative' are completely dependent on the viewer. Bias is in the eye of the beholder. To some McCain is very conservative but to others he far to liberal.
    I respectfully disagree.

    Right now, there is no explicit distinction of party affiliation. 'Liberal' and 'Conservative' is an ideological label - not a recognized party affiliation.

    Voters typically have to register as:

    - Democrat
    - Republican
    - Independent

    And, perhaps some other recognized parties such as:

    - Libertarian
    - Green
    - Communist
    - etc. (forgive me, if I omitted any other main-stream party affiliations)

    All I am suggesting is that in recognition of the changing face/role of media, that all reporters should fully disclose their affiliation. So that there is no pretense of journalistic impartiality. In the interest of full disclosure.

    Perhaps forcing the issue of disclosing party affiliation would bring a more fact based orientation to news reporting.

    A reporter should NOT be allowed to spin a news story based on their personal orientation and then claim "Freedom of the press" when challenged. That is what is happening now.

    It's no different than screaming "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater and expecting protection under the First Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tuttle View Post
    I respectfully disagree.

    Right now, there is no explicit distinction of party affiliation. 'Liberal' and 'Conservative' is an ideological label - not a recognized party affiliation.

    Voters typically have to register as:

    - Democrat
    - Republican
    - Independent

    And, perhaps some other recognized parties such as:

    - Libertarian
    - Green
    - Communist
    - etc. (forgive me, if I omitted any other main-stream party affiliations)

    All I am suggesting is that in recognition of the changing face/role of media, that all reporters should fully disclose their affiliation. So that there is no pretense of journalistic impartiality. In the interest of full disclosure.

    Perhaps forcing the issue of disclosing party affiliation would bring a more fact based orientation to news reporting.

    A reporter should NOT be allowed to spin a news story based on their personal orientation and then claim "Freedom of the press" when challenged. That is what is happening now.

    It's no different than screaming "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater and expecting protection under the First Amendment.
    While I appreciate your position, I do not believe in most cases you can have a presentation of 'fact'. You could simply post quotes from people of interest, but that leave open the issue of context and the way individuals define their terms. For example, in the past month, I have heard at least two different talk shows where people disagreed about what 'the surge' was. Just as many folks here believe there is a liberal bias in the main stream media, I know as many folks who will point to a conservative bias in the media. In both cases, people are quick to find bias with what they perceive to be against them and not see it in cases where it supports their views.


    I think the best we can realistically hope for is for people to seek information from a variety of sources and then come to their own conclusions regarding the 'bias' of those sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyo View Post
    I think the best we can realistically hope for is for people to seek information from a variety of sources and then come to their own conclusions regarding the 'bias' of those sources.
    Thats probably the best bet we have. See what the rest of the world has to say about the subject. There are very few writers who ever practiced the idea of "journalistic integrity". practiced=were allowed. I was talking to a Philly Inquirer writer in a bar a couple of years ago and he basically set me straight. I asked him why a reporter can't just write what they see and not interject their own opinion...he basically said that is not possible. I then asked about journalistic integrity and he responded that journalistic integrity does not get good stories.

    When it comes down to it, the majority of America's newspapers are owned by only a couple of publishers (Cox, Knight-Ridder, NY Times). The majority of the stories they carry are written by only a couple of news services (AP, Reuters). There is really no such thing as a large independent newspaper these days. Even back in the day, the independent newspapers still furthered their owners thoughts. If the average person believes what they see and hear in the media everyday, chances are, you don't want their opinion...because they don't have an opinion.

    Though I have never reserached this on my own, I found the following media chart quite interesting: http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml

    This is not just a TV/Media thing either. Everyday, children in school and students in universities are being taught that their teachers/professors opinion is fact. It comes as no suprise that the major textbook publishers in this country are also directly involved with the newspaper publishers.

    The media has always been the PR outlet for the few that run the show...always.

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