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    Default Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...cc8_story.html


    RICHMOND — Gov. Terry McAuliffe plans to announce Friday that Virginia will restore handgun reciprocity agreements with nearly all states, in a stunning reversal of firearms policy that angered Republicans and gun rights advocates across the nation.

    The about-face is part of a deal that McAuliffe (D) struck with Republican leaders one month after Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) severed the right for gun owners in 25 states to have their concealed carry permits recognized in Virginia.

    In exchange, Republicans will agree to some concessions, according to McAuliffe’s office and the office of House Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford).

    If an individual’s Virginia concealed-carry permit is revoked, a permit from another state will not be honored in Virginia — a practice known as “state shopping.”

    State police must be present at all gun shows to administer background checks in private sales of guns on a voluntary basis.

    Anyone subject to a permanent protective order for a domestic violence offence will be prohibited from carrying a firearm for the two-year life of the order.

    The policy changes will come in the form of bipartisan legislation before the General Assembly.

    Gun rights advocates reacted bitterly last month when Herring announced his firearms policy, accusing Herring of politicizing his office to erode the Second Amendment.

    “This decision is both dangerous and shameful,” Chris Cox, executive director of the National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action said in December after the announcement. “At a time when people are scared and desperately need the ability to defend themselves, Herring has chosen the path of making self-defense harder.”

    But Democrats said Herring was applying Virginia concealed-carry standards set by the General Assembly to everyone who sets foot in the state.

    “This action is a reflection of the law a conservative Republican legislature has crafted over the years,” Sen. A. Donald McEachin (D-Henrico) said. “And now, when the attorney general actually follows the law, conservative Republicans are squealing about it.”
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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    Sounds like Kane has been visiting Va.

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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    State Police have to do the checks at gun shows?

    Nice waste of resources, Governor.
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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    This sounds really retarded, but certainly a net positive.

    Way to go, PAFOA. We were some of the people that shamed/frightened them out of this. Good work to all that contacted them.
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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    Sounds mostly good.

    I wonder if the "voluntary background checks" will have any paper work? Or will the police just look at identifications, run a NICS check and say "yup you're good to make the sale". Will they record the information for potentially nefarious use at a later date?

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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    Quote Originally Posted by alpacaheat View Post
    State Police have to do the checks at gun shows?

    Nice waste of resources, Governor.
    They said voluntary. But I agree, the state police have better things to do.
    OTOH, if you were a gun loving cop, that's not a horrible detail.
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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    It sounds good, but those concessions were probably the Governor's endgame.



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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    I think it is a net positive for all PA LTCF holders. It just burdens VS residents.

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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    I think it's messed up. You're trading the reciprocity once had then lossed and now gained back at the expense of having to do a BGC at a gun show w private sales! Wtf is that, it's a private sale and they should not interfere w such. If I lived in the state you could simply just meet the individual not at a gun show. What really is shameful is the whole myth of the gunshow loophole. Anti gun rights advocates know it's bs and just another foothold and stripping people's rights.

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    Default Re: Virginia backing up on reciprocity

    ^^^this^^^

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