PA native - living in MI - coming home, want to buy a stripped AR receiver

**masakarijoe** · December 16th, 2013, 06:13 PM

Background:
-I am from Montgomery County, PA. I moved to Michigan to be with my wife and son and to attend a police academy. I plan on coming back to PA to live in the near future, as soon as I am certifiable under MCOLES/MPOETC.
-I have a valid and current MI driver's license, which replaced my PA driver's license (which I still have, although it is not valid because I have the MI DL)
-I am a Marine Corps reservist, and have a USMC ID which is currently valid.
-MI has no registration or restrictions on long guns or receivers.
-What I want to buy:
http://augerprecisionfirearms.com/in...product_id=104

Anyways, I am coming home to PA in a couple weeks and was planning on buying a stripped AR receiver from an individual in person. He also seems to be an FFL.
He states that he cannot sell it to me because I have a MI DL, and not a valid PA DL. Is this true? It will be built into a rifle, so I don't mind it being sold that way (as opposed to being sold as a pistol or "other"). Alternatively, can we bring it to a local gun store for the transaction?
I really want to buy this, but don't want to deal with shipping and FFL hassles.
Thanks for the help.

**jerkin** · December 16th, 2013, 06:28 PM

He's right, I just learned it recently also. Here is the thread: http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...out-state.html

Either pick one up in Michigan before you leave or wait until you have your Pa drivers license.

**knight0334** · December 16th, 2013, 06:32 PM

Only rifles and shotguns can be purchased out of one's state of residence.

A bare receiver is not a long gun. It is classified as "other firearm".

It takes a shoulder stock to create a rifle or shotgun, without such it is not a long gun.

**masakarijoe** · December 16th, 2013, 06:57 PM

then can it be sold as a rifle on the 4473 instead? or could he attach a receiver extension or stock to it and sell it that way?
It would be going with an upper and stock that I already have, as a rifle, so if I could simply transfre my parts over, it would be a rifle

**Gun** · December 16th, 2013, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by masakarijoe

then can it be sold as a rifle on the 4473 instead? or could he attach a receiver extension or stock to it and sell it that way?
It would be going with an upper and stock that I already have, as a rifle, so if I could simply transfre my parts over, it would be a rifle

Attaching an RE, with a stock does not make it a rifle until a barrel is attached. You will still be buying a lower that is indicated as OTHER on the 4473, therefore you will have to have it transferred in Michigan. Adding your parts will not change this fact.

**Auger Precision** · December 17th, 2013, 05:12 AM

i have been wanting to post something here, i just never saw anything that i could chime in on.

you guys are right. its either a long gun or it isnt a long gun. the atf dont car how many bells and whistles you attach to it. if it dont fire, it isnt built.

i was looking for an introduce yourself section but i didnt see one.

is there a section to find places to shoot? im having trouble finding outdoor places that allow full auto. i just built a new m16 and it stinks, i cant shoot it because no where allows rifle caliber machine guns.