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    Default Old shell found - help needed to identify

    Can anyone help identify a shell I found.


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    It appears to have VSM stamped on the side of the shell too. I've found out that the VSM stands for Vickers, Son & Maxim.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    I know maxim made a popular machine gun. But I don't know what caliber it is.

    Time to hit the google.

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    Here's a pic. of the maxim machine gun circa 1895


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    It seems MVS made all sorts of stuff during the war, from machine guns, to submarines, to big 15 inch guns on battleships.

    The closest thing I have found so far that was fired from a maxim is the .577/450 Martini-Henry cartrige. (the two tn the middle) but the necks look too long. I'll keep looking to see what I can find


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    There is a hole at the top of the shell, presumably for a fuse??


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    Here's a couple of the 15 inch guns they made.

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    Welcome to the forum

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    Default Re: Old shell found - help needed to identify

    could you measure the business end? It appears to be a round for the 1.5 inch (70 cal) hotchkiss revolving cannon.




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    The shell tip measures 7/8ths inch and approx 1.5 inch at it's widest point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warners Surplus View Post
    could you measure the business end? It appears to be a round for the 1.5 inch (70 cal) hotchkiss revolving cannon.

    Rich W.
    More like 40mm, which is about 158 caliber. VSM is Vicker, Son & Maxim making this British, probably a Vickers 1 1/2 pounder. 37x123R is a possibility. You'll need to get a few accurate measurements to make a positive ID. Shell length to 1mm, same for projectile diameter. Base diameter & rim thickness would be a plus, too.

    Take a look at http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/MilRel.htm Scroll down to "Group 16" and click on the photo link.
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