Another Baltimore Police shooting

[alpacaheat]

And another case of "He Dindu Nuffin".

“He gets good grades. My son is a good kid,” Young said. “I know he was scared. They shot at him while he was fleeing.”


http://www.gopusa.com/?p=9207?omhide=true

Police shoot teen carrying real looking replica gun

A Baltimore police detective shot a boy in East Baltimore on Wednesday afternoon who he wrongly believed was carrying a semiautomatic pistol, Police Commissioner Kevin Davis said. The boy suffered what police called non-life-threatening injuries to a "lower extremity," Davis said. The weapon turned out to be spring-air-powered BB gun -- not a real firearm.

A Baltimore police detective shot a boy in East Baltimore on Wednesday afternoon who he wrongly believed was carrying a semiautomatic pistol, Police Commissioner Kevin Davis said.
The boy suffered what police called non-life-threatening injuries to a “lower extremity,” Davis said. The weapon turned out to be spring-air-powered BB gun — not a real firearm.
The boy’s mother identified him as 14-year-old Dedric Colvin, an eighth-grader at City Springs Middle School. Volanda Young said her son was shot once in the shoulder and once in the leg.
The incident came on the day city officials marked the one-year anniversary of the Freddie Gray riots.
Davis said two plainclothes detectives assigned to the Police Department’s intelligence section were driving in the 1100 block of E. Baltimore St. shortly after 4 p.m. Wednesday when they spotted the boy with what appeared to be a firearm.
The detectives got out of their vehicle, identified themselves as officers and told him to stop, Davis said. The boy began running, the officers gave chase for about 150 yards, and one detective shot the boy, Davis said.
Young said she was home Wednesday afternoon when an older son came banging on the front door.
“Ma,” Alvin Colvin said. “The police shot Dedric.”
Young said she ran outside to find the boy bleeding in a side street near a basketball court.
“All I could see was blood,” she said. “I was screaming.”
Police did not release the boy’s name. They said he was 13.
They did release a photograph of the gun they said he was carrying. It appeared to show a Daisy brand PowerLine Model 340 spring-air pistol.
After decades in law enforcement, Davis said, he might have mistaken it for a firearm.
“I looked at it myself today, I stood right over top of it, I put my own eyes on it,” he said. “It’s an absolute, identical replica semiautomatic pistol. Those police officers had no way of knowing that it was not, in fact, an actual firearm. It looks like a firearm.”
Blood was visible outside the McKim Community Center and basketball courts Wednesday evening near the intersection of Aisquith and East Baltimore streets.
The detectives were not injured, Davis said. Police did not release their names.
Dedric was taken to Johns Hopkins Hospital. Young said she pleaded with police: “Is my son alive?”

She said she was leaving to call the hospital when officers handcuffed her and put her in a police car.
“It was humiliating,” she said.
She said she was taken to a police station and asked questions. At one point, she said, she was put in a cell. She said officers told her she was being belligerent.
After two hours, she estimated, she was driven to the hospital: “I begged them to take me.”
She spoke in her home Wednesday evening. A medal that Dedric earned in the Baltimore Urban Debate League hangs on a trophy in the living room.
“He gets good grades. My son is a good kid,” Young said. “I know he was scared. They shot at him while he was fleeing.”
She said she didn’t know where he got the BB gun.
The incident recalled the death of Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old Cleveland boy who was shot by a police officer in November 2014 after he brandished a toy gun in a public park. The City of Cleveland agreed this week to pay $6 million to settle a federal lawsuit brought by Rice’s family.
The heavy police presence Wednesday drew neighbors to the scene. Some milled around, condemning what they described as more police brutality in the city.
Some noted that the shooting occurred on the day that Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake was hosting a “reconciliation” event in West Baltimore to mark the one-year anniversary of the riots that erupted on the day Gray was buried.
The 25-year-old Baltimore man died after suffering a severe spinal cord injury in police custody. Six officers have been charged in Gray’s arrest and death; all have pleaded not guilty.
Davis said the anniversary was “not lost” on him, either.
“The job of police officers here and elsewhere goes on,” he said. “Police officers don’t take days off. We’re constantly tasked with responding to the concerns of the community. Public safety never takes a day off.”
He noted a recent spike in homicides and nonfatal shootings in the city, and said officers are expected to confront people they believe are armed.
“The last 24, 48 hours, we’ve had a significant spate of gun violence and homicides and nonfatal shootings in our city, so our police officers were doing exactly what we have asked them to do,” he said.
Since Sunday night, nine people in the city have been killed and seven others injured in shootings. The city has seen 360 homicides in the past 12 months.
Davis said the circumstances around the boy’s shooting — including whether he aimed the BB gun at the detectives, how far they were from the boy when he was shot, and how many times the detective fired — would all be investigated by the department’s Special Investigations Response Team.

“Investigating police-involved shootings is a sacred obligation to this police department,” he said. “We’re going to get it right.”
He also said that he had “no reason to believe that these officers acted inappropriately whatsoever at this moment.”
“They got out of their car and they engaged a person who had what looked like a gun in his hand, he said. “I mean, come on. That’s what we’re supposed to do. That’s what cops do.
“When he ran — and the foot chase was a good 150 or so yards, he rounded a corner, kept running — he had every opportunity to drop the gun, had every opportunity to stop, put his hands in the air, comply with the instructions of the police officers.”
Davis said the boy’s mother was taken in for questioning. Davis said the mother indicated to police that she knew her son had the BB gun.
Davis said people often commit crimes in Baltimore with replica guns — “It happens all the time” — and police take the items seriously.
Daisy describes the Powerline 340 pistol as “a spring-air pistol that features a 200-shot BB reservoir with a 13-shot Speedload Clip.”
“For hours of fun on the range and basic training for pistol shooters, Daisy’s PowerLine Model 340 pistol is appropriate for adults and those ages 16 and older with adult supervision,” the company says on its website.
In a video taken at the scene and obtained by The Baltimore Sun, Maj. Deron Garrity is seen speaking to Alvin Colvin.
Garrity tells the brother the boy had a gun that looked real.
“No cop wants to shoot anybody,” Garrity says. “Nobody. But if somebody’s got a gun, how am I supposed to tell these officers, ‘Hey, make sure that he shoots you first, and then you can do it?'”
“But if he not pointing it at police, why do they got the right to shoot?” the young man asks.
“He did,” Garrity says.
Davis said officers have a dangerous and difficult job.
“No police officer in Baltimore wants to shoot a 13-year-old, but police officers here and elsewhere are charged by us, by our community, with going after bad guys with guns,” he said. “We can’t allow someone to walk down the street in broad daylight anywhere in Baltimore with what looks to be a semiautomatic pistol in their hand.”
Three of the nine people killed in the city since Sunday died Tuesday night, police said.
Asia Brockington, 24, was planning her wedding in June to Taylor Owings.
Their daughter was to be a flower girl. Dancing would be in Freedom Hall of Northeast Baltimore. They paid the deposit on the hall three days ago.
Brockington was killed Tuesday night while she and Owings took out the trash at their home near Patterson Park, Owings said.
“Some dude walked up, said ‘Don’t move,'” Owings said Wednesday in a home crowded with grieving family. “He shot her. He shot her. … I saw her take her last breath.”

[alpacaheat]

Whose side would you take? Obviously the kid didn't have a real gun and was shot while fleeing, so there's that side. Did police shoot unnecessarily?

On the other hand, the kid had what appeared to be a real gun in a high-crime area, was fleeing police with his gun in his hand, refusing to comply. A stupid move for anyone.



Personally if I had to choose a side, it's going to be with the police. His mother never taught him not to run from police with a gun in his hand? He appeared to be a threat to the neighborhood because he made himself look that way.

I can't wait for the racist mayor to weigh in on it now...and the riots.

[Inigoes]

Whose side would you take? Obviously the kid didn't have a real gun and was shot while fleeing, so there's that side. Did police shoot unnecessarily?

On the other hand, the kid had what appeared to be a real gun in a high-crime area, was fleeing police with his gun in his hand, refusing to comply. A stupid move for anyone.



Personally if I had to choose a side, it's going to be with the police. His mother never taught him not to run from police with a gun in his hand? He appeared to be a threat to the neighborhood because he made himself look that way.

I can't wait for the racist mayor to weigh in on it now...and the riots.

One more side: a kid scared out of his brains because two guys in plain clothes are screaming orders at him.

[alpacaheat]

One more side: a kid scared out of his brains because two guys in plain clothes are screaming orders at him.

"The detectives got out of their vehicle, identified themselves as officers and told him to stop, Davis said. The boy began running."

[Inigoes]

"The detectives got out of their vehicle, identified themselves as officers and told him to stop, Davis said. The boy began running."

The "Plain clothes" detectives

For making contact, there is something to be said about being in uniform or in a marked car.

[alpacaheat]

The "Plain clothes" detectives

For making contact, there is something to be said about being in uniform or in a marked car.

Perhaps if the people of Baltimore didn't treat police like this...they wouldn't have to send unmarked cars to these neighborhoods.

[bluetrane2028]

So, I totally understand why kids want to play with BB guns. I did myself as a kid, but given all the headlines, why on Earth wouldn't you tell your kid to limit it to the basement or something and not go running around public streets with a BB gun that looks that realistic? Most of mine were clear plastic with neon accents. Impossible to confuse.

I can completely understand the "two guys in plain clothes scared him" statement. One time, a suspicious car (an old beat up Explorer) pulled up to my work building late and two guys jumped out kinda suspicious checking out one of the cars in the lot. They were dressed kinda shabby too. I confronted them (peacefully) to ask what they were doing, ready for anything just in case. They said "We're the cops, checking out this car to make sure it wasn't dumped here after a crime, because nobody parks here this late." My response was "Well the lady that owns it is inside working late, please leave." They ran her plate first and then left. Totally creepy, and could have easily gone a different way if I didn't have a cool head. Their tone and demeanor wasn't typical police professionalism, I can tell you that.

So, I get why there are plain clothes officers, but I could see a teenager getting into a bad situation fast. Glad the kid is going to live, hopefully he learns something and he can go on to live a full life.

[bluetrane2028]

Perhaps if the people of Baltimore didn't treat police like this...they wouldn't have to send unmarked cars to these neighborhoods.

Completely agree.

[Inigoes]

So, I get why there are plain clothes officers, but I could see a teenager getting into a bad situation fast. Glad the kid is going to live, hopefully he learns something and he can go on to live a full life.

Exactly, kids are taught about "Stranger Danger".

[Carson]

The "Plain clothes" detectives

For making contact, there is something to be said about being in uniform or in a marked car.

You find me a young urban male who can't identify plainclothes police or an unmarked police car in Baltimore and I'll give you $1000.