Stoeger Coach gun to SBS questions

**MartinBrody** · December 1st, 2007, 12:18 AM

I was handling a Stoeger Coach gun in 20 gauge and was thinking it would make an awesome short barreled shotgun.

I have a suppressor so I am familar with the ATF form 4, but for this I know I need to submit an ATF form 1 and when I get it back approved I can go ahead with making it into a SBS.

So here are my questions...

1) Is it ok if I won't be the one actually cutting it down, in other words manufacturing it? I would like to have a gunsmith do a professional job.

2) Do I need to have it engraved as soon as I get the approved form 1 back? Or can it wait until I actually have it made into a SBS?

3) Has anyone here done this or known anyone who has with this particular style shotgun? Are there any other do's or don't's you can think of, what worked and what didn't?

I searched but didn't find much on making a SBS, please let me know if any of these questions have been answered.

**JayBell** · December 1st, 2007, 01:44 AM

1) Is it ok if I won't be the one actually cutting it down, in other words manufacturing it? I would like to have a gunsmith do a professional job.

*** Yes, thats fine, and probably suggested***

2) Do I need to have it engraved as soon as I get the approved form 1 back? Or can it wait until I actually have it made into a SBS?

***Yes, you are supposed to get the markings on as soon as the form is returned to you, and is in your posession. You can have it marked while you are waiting on the F1 approval however, best to do it then.***
see engraving requirements here:
http://www.pafoa.org/forum/nfa-class...tml#post132286

3) Has anyone here done this or known anyone who has with this particular style shotgun? Are there any other do's or don't's you can think of, what worked and what didn't?

*** I havent done this myself, but I have seen several, and fired a couple that have been done. Chop the barrels( make ure the gunsmith fills/joins the barrels at the muzzle, most arent full length joined), engrave, and most people "birdshead" the buttstock off into a pistolgrip carefully, and also cut down the forearm a litle bit to get a shorter barrel set.***

heres a thread about one on THR...and a pic, guy shows and describes what he did in detail...it looks pretty sweet.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=213031

**CoyoteJack** · December 1st, 2007, 06:29 AM

Those always looks so sweet! I saw one for sale in a shop in Tombstone years ago.

So if one had a coachgun already, a spare $200 for a stamp, the means to get it modified and the ability to pass the background check they too could have one of these beauties?

**JayBell** · December 1st, 2007, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by CoyoteJack

Those always looks so sweet! I saw one for sale in a shop in Tombstone years ago.

So if one had a coachgun already, a spare $200 for a stamp, the means to get it modified and the ability to pass the background check they too could have one of these beauties?

absolutely.

refer to the sticky at the top of the main forum on "how to make and or acquire nFA items in PA".

**bogey1** · December 1st, 2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by JayBell

absolutely.

refer to the sticky at the top of the main forum on "how to make and or acquire nFA items in PA".

i have a pdf file of the form i can email you if you want, let me know...

**Stooperzero** · December 1st, 2007, 11:20 AM

Im doing this to a Savage Fox come new years.

or just gona spring for an AOW 870

Is there anyone in PA that can engrave AR lowers?

I've done all the other engraving on my other NFA stuff myself but no luck on my sbr AR , a few places that actually specialize in it are so back logged it's insane.