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November 25th, 2009, 07:59 AM #1
deceptive "survey" heads up
I just got this one of these "surveys"and it really pissed me off. I'm posting someone elses commentary. Give the older people in your life a heads up so they wont be taken. (This commentary is based on an older survey from 2004. The 2009 surveys questions are updated to reflect whats going on now politically ).
National Republican Senatorial Committee: Did you get the survey?
So, I don't normally talk about politics here, but something happaned last week that I have to talk about. While I was in Boston, a survey arrived. This survey was called the U.S. Senate Majority Leader's Survey 2004. It looked a heck of a lot like a typical IRS form. It had various official looking numbers like a registration number, a voting district code, even a section on top marked "NRSC Use Only."
Below my address, and in big bold letters was:
NOTICE: This SURVEY DOCUMENT IS REGISTERED IN YOUR NAME and must be accounted for upon completion of this project. If you choose not to participate in this crucial Republican Majority Leader's Survey, return this Survey Document at once using the postage paid envelope provided.
OFFICIAL REPUBLICAN PARTY DOCUMENT - DO NOT DESTROY
So, at this point, I'm pretty curious. As far as I know (unless Ashcroft got around to suspending the Constitution), the Republican National Party has no right to tell me what I can do with my mail. That being said.... the document is very convincing, and this will come into play a bit later.
So, the survey itself is what you would expect. A heavily biased set of questions favoring Bush. I kept expecting a "Should Kerry stop beating his wife" question. This in itself isn't a big huge deal. I'm sure Democratic groups put out biased mailings as well. That's kinda the point. But again, remember the dire warnings and official looking text that preceeded the questions.
At the end of the survey are three options:
1. YES! I want to help defend our Republican Senate Majority and build a strong foundation of Republican grassroots support for President Bush's agenda. I am enclosing my most generous contribution of ....
2. No. I do not wish to participate in this vital Republican Majority Leader's Survey. However, I am returning my Survey Document, along with a generous donation to help build Republican grassroots support for President Bush's agenda. I am enclosing a donation of:
3. No. I do not wish to participate in the survey, nor do I wish to make a donation to help the Republican Party. I am returning my Survey Document, along with a contribution of $11 to help cover the cost of tabulating and redistributing my Survey.
Now obvious, the red text was my choice, and is the option I want to focus on. The document, which looks like any other typical government form, made it very clear that you were not to destroy it. Now, at the end, you can't return without sending this group eleven dollars.
In general, I tend to think people have a certain responsibility to have a basic, minimum level of intelligence. Therefore, what this group is doing is (afaik) technically legal. However, it is slimy. Damn slimy. How many people will get tricked into thinking they have to donate eleven dollars to this group? How many people who really can't afford to donate money? The more I think about this group, the angrier I get. Maybe I'm totally missing the point here, but this just seems like pure evil.
Oh, and they have a web site: http://www.nrsc.org. Perhaps folks could contact them and let them know what you think of this "survey."Last edited by K.C.; November 25th, 2009 at 08:03 AM.
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November 25th, 2009, 08:06 AM #2
Re: deceptive "survey" heads up
Something about their site doesn't pass the smell test... can't put my finger on it, but this doesn't seem like a legitimate organization, despite the huge amount of effort they have apparently expended to appear so.
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November 25th, 2009, 08:16 AM #3
Re: deceptive "survey" heads up
Did we all lose 5 years somewhere? It's still 2009, right?
Let's do the time warp again....Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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November 25th, 2009, 12:03 PM #4Super Member
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Re: deceptive "survey" heads up
Feel free to give Mr. Sherred a call, or email.
Email for the admin is elivingston@nrsc.org
the email address for the registrant is wfulgeras@nrsc.org
I'd have to image that the Mr. Sherred's email is esherred@nrsc.org.
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November 26th, 2009, 08:38 AM #5
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Looks like they put a phony fax number in their registration. Isn't it illegal now to put false information in a domain registration?
I know ICANN will revoke a domain for it...
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November 26th, 2009, 10:45 AM #6
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November 26th, 2009, 11:47 AM #7Active Member
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Re: deceptive "survey" heads up
*sigh* politicians....
So, how long till we get to nuke DC and start over?
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November 26th, 2009, 09:53 PM #8
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November 26th, 2009, 10:28 PM #9Active Member
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