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    Default Digital audio recorder in pocket earns man wiretapping charges

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    Digital audio recorder in pocket earns man wiretapping charges
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:36PM EDT


    Got a digital voice recorder like one of these? Watch out how you use it or you could land yourself in scorching legal trouble. One man recently found that out the hard way, after he was arrested and discovered to be recording the goings-on with just such a device in his pocket. Not only is he now facing charges for disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and trespassing, he's also charged with unlawful wiretapping and possessing a device for wiretapping.

    The story goes that one Chi Quang Truong was embroiled in a dispute with a Massachusetts auto service center, which didn't repair his car as quickly as Truong wanted. Truong got into a verbal scuffle with the service shop and the police were called. Apparently Truong was recording all of this -- for reasons unknown -- using a device stowed in his pocket, and cops added the wiretapping charges to his rap sheet during his arrest.

    But wait a second: Don't you need a wire to get charged with wiretapping? I thought so too, and the theory here is that since Truong didn't have explicit permission to record the conversation (memories of Linda Tripp), he was slapped with the additional charges. In 12 states (California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington) you're required to get the permission of all parties on the line before making any kind of recording. In the rest of the country, any single member that's part of the conversation can legally record it without consent from the other parties. And as Network World notes, wiretapping laws largely extend to in-person communications now, so no wire is required.

    Still, does the punishment really fit the crime? Wiretapping is a class D felony, and that can mean (based on my admittedly limited understanding of criminal statutes) up to 12 years in prison. While Truong is unlikely to face anything that severe (and, in all probability, will have the wiretapping charges dropped as his prosecution progresses), he probably shouldn't be facing charges for any of this. And "possession of a wiretapping device"? Yikes. Even my iPhone has a voice recorder feature built in. I'm in possession of such a device any time I step out in public.

    Check your own pockets, briefcase, purse, or backpack: You might be a criminal!

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    Default Re: Digital audio recorder in pocket earns man wiretapping charges

    Actually. I thought in Pa... you do not need permission, but only that they are notified of a recording may be in progress (IANAL)

    This also may not hold up in PA, as if there were other people present, there is not the likelihood of a "private" conversation...especially if there was a heated arguement (IANAL)

    Thought for Police recordings...this was null (I realize the case is between a shop owner and a customer in another state) as the police, by virtue of being a public servant, executing a stop in a public place (etc) has no expectation of privacy (IANAL)

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    Default Re: Digital audio recorder in pocket earns man wiretapping charges

    Quote Originally Posted by marinakorp View Post
    Actually. I thought in Pa... you do not need permission, but only that they are notified of a recording may be in progress (IANAL)

    This also may not hold up in PA, as if there were other people present, there is not the likelihood of a "private" conversation...especially if there was a heated arguement (IANAL)

    Thought for Police recordings...this was null (I realize the case is between a shop owner and a customer in another state) as the police, by virtue of being a public servant, executing a stop in a public place (etc) has no expectation of privacy (IANAL)
    Your right about Police having " no expectation of privacy "
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    Default Re: Digital audio recorder in pocket earns man wiretapping charges

    Quote Originally Posted by son of the revolution View Post
    Your right about Police having " no expectation of privacy "
    I don't care what the law says, quit looking in my windows.

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    Default Re: Digital audio recorder in pocket earns man wiretapping charges

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    I don't care what the law says, quit looking in my windows.
    LMAO 10 char
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    Default Re: Digital audio recorder in pocket earns man wiretapping charges

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    I don't care what the law says, quit looking in my windows.
    Off topic but coincidence - I saw two people with their heads and upper bodies inside a cops driver side window a few weeks ago. I turned around and came back, never seen that before and did not like it. But I saw him reading a map to the guys or something when I came back so I drove off.

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