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February 26th, 2009, 11:00 AM #1
Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
Say you're carrying and pull a 0:25 on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9dy5yCUxOg like Clint did, would that considered to be brandishing/threatening, especially if the cop eventually found a gun on you?
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February 26th, 2009, 11:45 AM #2
Re: Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
Brandishing/Threatening with a finger???
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February 26th, 2009, 11:49 AM #3
Re: Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
Clint did a lot in that movie that would, in the real world, get your gun rights taken away for good.
But the scenario was that he was amongst people that don't call the cops.
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February 26th, 2009, 11:57 AM #4
Re: Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
There is no "brandishing" law in PA...
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February 26th, 2009, 12:08 PM #5
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February 26th, 2009, 12:10 PM #6
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February 26th, 2009, 12:13 PM #7
Re: Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
Actually, Clint did pull a 1911 on the three black guys that were assaulting the Asian girl and the dumb kid that was trying to be "cool" with the black guys. Looked justifiable to me. They were about to assault the girl, and then they were about to assault him when he intervened.
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February 26th, 2009, 12:25 PM #8
Re: Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
It's just a movie and I wouldn't imitate it in real life.
What Clint did was an assault and yes for that you could be arrested.
But the court would look at the totality of the circumstances and if you could prove there was a rape or an attempted rape then the assault MAY be justified."Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.)
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February 26th, 2009, 03:58 PM #9
Re: Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
I guess no one understood what I was asking...
The frames around 0:25 in the clip was only a reference, NOT the entire movie or whatever Clint eventually did.
In any case, say I was carrying and some a-hole did something I didn't like and to give him a warning, I do what Clint did with his fingers. Would that consider to be a threat where I could be arrested (assuming the a-hole called the police WITHOUT knowing that I was carrying, the police shows up and found out that I WAS carrying)?
Al
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February 26th, 2009, 06:44 PM #10
Re: Clint's Gran Torino "brandishing"?
No I get what you are asking. If you held your fingers out in the same fashion and "pretended" to shoot the guy, yes technically you have assaulted him. You threatened him. When the cops show up, whether or not you actually have a gun on you will not matter, as far as the assault goes. Now granted its a snow balls's chance in hell type thingthat he would call the ploce, but in the letter of the law, yes you assaulted the man. Which is why you don't do that kind of shit because somebody pissed you off or in your words, some A-hole did something you did not like, so you decided to "warn" him. The word 'warn' means that you will do something else next time that will be an escalation from the finger gun. So again, yes you threatened him with the use of force because you did not like what he was doing. That alone is not enough, now the act he is comitting/you don't like is say a violent crime upon another person, then we have a different story. Don't we?
Dave W.Last edited by Brown-Bear; February 26th, 2009 at 06:48 PM. Reason: Had to type that 3 times before I got everything in there
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