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    Default Gun Self-Defense Counter

    Since January 1, 2011 until this moment, Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:22:08 PM GUNS have already been used in the US, in SELF DEFENSE 1,306,070 times... Think about it...

    http://www.actionamerica.org/index.shtml
    MikeP

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    And how do they come by those statistics?

    I'm wary of all statistics because how easily they can be fudged. There are sources for their data and I know absolutely nothing about this website, which is obviously Tea Party/Conservative leanings. Same is said for all the liberal rants as well, just don't believe everything I read or hear.

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    Id like to see sources as well before promoting their counter.

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    likely includes LEO use

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    There's nothing "real" about this number. They take the "statistic" that guns are used in self defense 2.5 million times a year from the 1995 Kleck/Gertz study -- which would be about once every 13 seconds. The counter just ticks over every 13 seconds and will end the year at 2,425,846.

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    I believe Kleck's claim was that there were upwards of 3m "DGU's" per year.

    DGU= Defensive Gun Use

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    Quote Originally Posted by donm View Post
    There's nothing "real" about this number. They take the "statistic" that guns are used in self defense 2.5 million times a year from the 1995 Kleck/Gertz study -- which would be about once every 13 seconds. The counter just ticks over every 13 seconds and will end the year at 2,425,846.
    That was my first thought as well. You know what they say about great minds... they often end up dissected or in jars with jelly!

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    We'll never know exactly for sure because most cases will go undiscovered (i.e. individuals don't want to talk about it and/or neither does the press) but it sure isn't a small number.
    "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws--that's insane!" -- Penn Jillette

    "To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." -- Ted Nugent

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    Default Re: Gun Self-Defense Counter

    This statistic would mean that more than 1 out of every 250 Americans would have used a gun in self defense in the first half of 2011 alone. Do not believe all statistics.

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