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    Default Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

    I got this from my sister, thought I'd share.


    Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

    Whatever your politics, this report should open some eyes.

    Military losses, 1980 through 2006
    (http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)

    As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the
    following statistics:

    The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the
    armed forces from 1980 through 2006:

    1980 .......... 2,392 (Carter Year)
    1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year)
    1984 .......... 1,999 (Reagan Year)
    1988 .......... 1,819 (Reagan Year)
    1989 .......... 1,636 (George H W Year)
    1990 .......... 1,508 (George H W Year)
    1991 .......... 1,787 (George H W Year)
    1992 .......... 1,293 (George H W Year)
    1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
    1994 .......... 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
    1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
    1996 .......... 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
    1997 ............. 817 ( Clinton Year)
    1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
    1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
    2000 ...........1,983 ( Clinton Year)
    1,763 Avg. military deaths per year

    2001 ............. 890 (George W Year)
    2002 .......... 1,007 (George W Year)
    2003 .......... 1,410 (George W Year)
    2004 .......... 1,887 (George W Year)
    2005 ............. 919 (George W Year)
    2006.............. 920 (George W Year)
    2007...............899 (George W Year)
    1,133 Avg. military deaths per year
    A 35% reduction

    Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths
    George W years (2001-2006): 7,932 deaths

    If you are surprised when you look at these figures, so was I. These figures
    mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the Middle East are LESS
    than the loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton's presidency; when
    America wasn't even involved in a war!

    It surprised me too, so I went on line to find out what military actions we
    were in during Clinton 's presidency. Here is a web site I found that lists
    out those conflicts. (not war)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ates#1991-1999

    And, I was even more shocked when I read that in 1980, during the reign of
    President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter, there were 2,392 US
    military fatalities! I think that these figures indicate that many members
    of our Media and our Politicians will pick and choose the information on
    which they report. Of course we all know that they present only those
    'facts' which support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do so many of
    them march in lock-step to twist the truth? Where do so many of them get
    their marching-orders for their agenda? Obviously there is one shared
    agenda, and I believe it is clear it comes from the most powerful Democratic
    family of the decade.

    Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census of Americans. It shows
    the following FACTS about the distribution of American citizens, by Race:

    European descent ..........................69.12%
    Hispanic ........................................ 12.5%
    Black ..............................................12.3 %
    Asian ................................................3. 7%
    Native American ...............................1.0%
    Other ................................................2. 6%

    Now ...
    Here are the fatalities (by Race) over the past three years in Iraq .
    European descent (white) ............74.31%
    Hispanic ......................................10.74%
    Black ............................................ 9.67%
    Asian ............................................ 1.81%
    Native American ............................1.09%
    Other ............................................ 0.33%

    I was surprised again until it became clear to me that the point here is
    that our mainstream media continues to spin these figures (for political
    gain). Nothing more.

    It's all about politics and some politicians are now famous for turning
    American against American for a vote. (Consider Slick Willy and his comments
    just recently made about South Carolina, Jesse Jackson, and the 'blacks'
    voting for the 'black' candidates); or Hillary's stump speech after her
    Super Tuesday 'victory' stating that the current administration does not
    'listen' to anyone and continues the war costing precious American lives.
    Yes, I might even agree with her, but she should be made to acknowledge her
    own husband's administration, without having an actual war, sent more
    soldiers to their death during his regime-while also forcing the military to
    release Osama when we actually had him detained
    .

    I hope during the time between now and November that intelligent Americans
    can decipher the facts from the spin and the spinners from the leaders;
    those who seek even more power from those that seek justice, the dividers
    from the uniters.

    Over the next months let's be good listeners (yes, Hillary we are listening)
    and see and hear who tries to divide our nation; and who wants to unite our
    nation. Who wants to control how our money is spent and who wants our money
    spent the way we would spend it? Who seeks power and who seeks justice? Who
    spins the facts and who is genuine?

    (These statistics are published by Congressional Research Service, and they
    may be confirmed by anyone at:
    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)

    Please go to the above site to verify the email .... the media tells us,
    they report all we want to hear (BS). This should open the eyes of the
    public.


    Keith
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    Default Re: Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

    Playing Devils Advocate:

    1980 .......... 2,392 (Carter Year)
    1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year)
    Why single out Carter, when Regan's first year has the same numbers? And why dont we have complete data on Regan's years?

    IN Clinton's first 4 years there were 7071. GHWB's 4 years there were 6224. I wouldnt say thats a massive difference.

    I also would submit that our doctors are forever getting better. Its sad that it takes conflict to generate innovations in medicine, but when there are large amounts of casualties advances in wound care are made.

    I dont have time to go hunting for statistics right now but I would be curious to see how many fatal and non-fatal casualties there were for the same time frame.

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    Default Re: Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

    The numbers you posted don't match up with the FAS data; see page 11. In fact the first page of the document warns of emails containing false information.

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    Default Re: Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by zoom View Post
    The numbers you posted don't match up with the FAS data; see page 11. In fact the first page of the document warns of emails containing false information.
    Truthfully, I didn't chase facts. Mea Culpa. Just thought I'd throw it out there.


    Keith
    (with egg on his face)
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    Default Re: Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

    Thanks Diego.

    Closed.
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