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    Default Wow cool! - Treasure find in the UK

    Check this out! holy crap!!!


    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009...axon-Gold.html

    LONDON (AP) -- It's an unprecedented find that could revolutionize ideas about medieval England's Germanic rulers: An amateur treasure-hunter searching a farmer's field with a metal detector unearthed a huge collection of Anglo-Saxon gold and silver artifacts.

    The discovery sent a thrill through Britain's archaeological community, which said Thursday that it offers new insight into the world of the Anglo-Saxons, who ruled England from the fifth century until the 1066 Norman invasion and whose cultural influence is still felt throughout the English-speaking world.

    ''This is just a fantastic find completely out of the blue,'' Roger Bland, who managed the cache's excavation, told The Associated Press. ''It will make us rethink the Dark Ages.''

    The treasure trove includes intricately designed helmet crests embossed with a frieze of running animals, enamel-studded sword fittings and a checkerboard piece inlaid with garnets and gold. One gold band bore a biblical inscription in Latin calling on God to drive away the bearer's enemies.

    The Anglo-Saxons were a group of Germanic tribes who invaded England starting in the wake of the collapse of the Roman Empire. Their artisans made striking objects out of gold and enamel, and their language, Old English, is a precursor of modern English.

    The cache of gold and silver pieces was discovered in what was once Mercia, one of five main Anglo-Saxon kingdoms, and is thought to date to between 675 and 725.

    For Terry Herbert, the unemployed metal-detecting enthusiast who made the discovery on July 5 while scouring a friend's farm in the western region of Staffordshire, it was ''more fun than winning the lottery.''

    The 55-year-old spent five days searching the field alone before he realized he needed help and notified authorities. Professional archaeologists then took over the find.

    ''I was going to bed and in my sleep I was seeing gold items,'' Herbert said of the experience.

    The gold alone in the collection weighs 11 pounds and suggests that early medieval England was a far wealthier place than previously believed, according to Leslie Webster, the former curator of Anglo-Saxon archaeology at the British Museum.

    She said the crosses and other religious artifacts mixed in with the military items might shed new light on the relationship between Christianity and warfare among the Anglo-Saxons -- in particular a large cross she said may have been carried into battle.

    The hoard was officially declared treasure by a coroner on Thursday, which means it will be valued by experts and offered up for sale to a museum in Britain. Proceeds will be split 50-50 between Herbert and his farmer friend, who has not been identified. The find's exact location is being kept secret to deter looters.

    Bland said he could not give a precise figure for the value of the collection, but said the two could each be in line for a ''seven-figure sum.''

    Kevin Leahy, the archaeologist who catalogued the find, said the stash includes dozens of pommel caps -- decorative elements attached to the knobs of swords -- and appeared to be war loot. He noted that ''Beowulf,'' the Anglo-Saxon epic poem, contains a reference to warriors stripping the pommels of their enemies' weapons as mementoes.

    ''It looks like a collection of trophies, but it is impossible to say if the hoard was the spoils from a single battle or a long and highly successful military career,'' he said.

    ''We also cannot say who the original, or the final, owners were, who took it from them, why they buried it or when? It will be debated for decades.''

    Experts said they've so far examined a total of 1,345 items. But they've also recovered 56 pieces of earth that X-ray analysis suggests contain more artifacts -- meaning the total could rise to about 1,500.

    The craftsmanship was some of the highest-quality ever seen in finds of this kind, Leahy said, and many British archaeologists clearly shared his enthusiasm.

    Bland, who has documented discoveries across Britain, called it ''completely unique.'' Martin Welch, a specialist in Anglo-Saxon archaeology at University College London, said no one had found ''anything like this in this country before.''

    Herbert said one expert likened his discovery to finding Egyptian Pharoah Tutankhamen's tomb, adding: ''I just flushed all over when he said that. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up.''

    The collection is in storage at the Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery, where some of the items are to go on display starting Friday.

    It's unclear how the gold ended up in the field, although archaeologists suggested it may have been buried to hide the loot from roving enemies, a common practice at the time. The site's location is unusual as well -- Anglo-Saxon remains have tended to cluster in the country's south and east, while the so-called ''Staffordshire hoard'' was found in the west.

    In the meantime, archaeologists say they're likely to be busy for years puzzling out the meaning of some of the collection's more unusual pieces -- like five enigmatic gold snakes or a strip of gold bearing a crudely written and misspelled Biblical inscription in Latin.

    ''Rise up, O Lord, and may thy enemies be dispersed and those who hate thee be driven from thy face,'' reads the inscription, believed to be from the Book of Numbers.

    Also of interest is the largest of the crosses, which experts say may have been an altar or processional piece. It had been folded, possibly to make it fit into a small space prior to burial, and the apparent lack of respect shown to such a Christian symbol may point to the hoard being buried by pagans.

    ''The things that we can't identify are the ones that are going to teach us something new,'' Leahy said.

    For England, a country at the edge of Europe whose history owes an enormous debt to the Anglo-Saxons, the find has the potential to become one of its top national treasures, according to Webster.

    Caroline Barton, assistant treasure registrar at the British Museum, said objects over 300 years old and made up of more that 10 percent precious metal are only offered for sale to accredited museums in Britain, so the collection will not be leaving the country.
    Just for reference on the value - one of the pommels that were found a few years ago sold for 200k... there are over 300 of them in this cache... What a find!
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    Be prepared, because someone else already is and no one knows their intent except them.

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    Default Re: Wow cool! - Treasure find in the UK

    It's amazing to think of the ancient history all over Europe and the UK. I find it fascinating to see buildings in the eastern US that are over 200 years old let alone being able to see buildings and artifacts over 1500 years old. Thier history is incredible; it's just too bad they are throwing it away rather than learning from it. Not the artifacts, history itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg13a View Post
    It's amazing to think of the ancient history all over Europe and the UK. I find it fascinating to see buildings in the eastern US that are over 200 years old let alone being able to see buildings and artifacts over 1500 years old. Thier history is incredible; it's just too bad they are throwing it away rather than learning from it. Not the artifacts, history itself.
    Thats nothing... look at all the amazing artifacts that were destroyed by China making the super-dam... hundreds of thousands of uncovered caches are believed to be lost
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    Default Re: Wow cool! - Treasure find in the UK

    Hell, the chinese dammed the creek and flooded stuff they knew was there.

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    One of these days I would love to go play with a metal detector in England or Ireland. If I happen to go to Ireland I'll be borrowing my friends mother's castle she inherited a few years ago. I'm told it's in more than liveable shape.

    Wouldn't that be a vacation right there? Staying in a castle and searching for odd buried treasure. I gotta start saving my pennies lol

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    It's a real big story over here in the Uk. A lot of guys go out using metal detectors in the UK. There are Roman and ancient Anglo Saxon coins and jewellery all over the place. A friend of mine found a gold bracelet worth £1,000 in a field near where he lives. But this find is the big one. They say it might fetch £3 million! Think I better go buy a metal detector!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet James View Post
    It's a real big story over here in the Uk. A lot of guys go out using metal detectors in the UK. There are Roman and ancient Anglo Saxon coins and jewellery all over the place. A friend of mine found a gold bracelet worth £1,000 in a field near where he lives. But this find is the big one. They say it might fetch £3 million! Think I better go buy a metal detector!
    How does the rights to the find work their? I had heard the the gov. Takes any coins found. You may or may not get anything for the find. Is this true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by normanvin View Post
    How does the rights to the find work their? I had heard the the gov. Takes any coins found. You may or may not get anything for the find. Is this true?
    no this one is being called treasure, i think its because it wasn't owned by the gov before so it doesn't count as recovered property. If you find like sunken ships then it is recovering lost property... i think
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    It was a while ago the I had heard this. It was something about the gov. owning all the currancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by normanvin View Post
    It was a while ago the I had heard this. It was something about the gov. owning all the currancy.
    The courts judge whether they think it is 'Treasure Trove'. If they do it is yours to sell. You have to split the money with the person who owns the land. In this case they were real good friends so it was easy. This kind of find is Treasure Trove if it looks as if it was hidden or horded as treasure. The experts say it was booty of war and had been hoarded by a warrior who never came back to dig it back up - so it is Treasure Trove. If they hadn't found this - say if it was an archiological site, or a grave, then the Government might have just taken it for the state. We have a nice Government like that - not! The guy was lucky. They say there are 50 other items still hidden in the soil. Think I might get a torch and go up there one night! LOL!

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