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Thread: Can Landlords Ban Guns?
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November 27th, 2009, 03:01 PM #1
Can Landlords Ban Guns?
In Pennsylvania, if you are renting your residence from a landlord, can he legally forbid you from having a gun on the property you are renting?
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November 27th, 2009, 03:08 PM #2
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If it's not in the contract/lease, then I'd have to think his wishes are meaningless.
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November 27th, 2009, 03:21 PM #3
Re: Can Landlords Ban Guns?
Check out this recent thread
http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...ry-rights.html
IANAL, but the short answer is "Yes"
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November 27th, 2009, 07:34 PM #4
Re: Can Landlords Ban Guns?
I think a landlord can ban anything he wants as long as it doesn't go astray of the discrimination laws, and it's in the lease.
Every person takes his own risks. I personally would go with the old " what he don't know won't hurt him "deal. Are you going to worry about your safety, or a silly rule? Your call." The Seeds of Oppression Will One Day Bear The Fruit of Rebellion."
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November 27th, 2009, 07:58 PM #5
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When you are called a racist, it just means you won an argument with an Obama supporter.
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November 27th, 2009, 07:58 PM #6
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November 27th, 2009, 08:10 PM #7
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no, as "gun owner" is not a "protected class" of person like a person with a disability, a minority, ethnic group, or other such group covered by Equal Opportunity, or ADA.
they can ban gun owning, fish owning, velvet elvis owning, motorcycle owning people...with no repercussions.
cant say "no blacks, no handicapped" etc.
no guns is perfectly allowable... and though i'd never agree to live there, i believe its the right of the landowner to say what can and cant be done on and in their property.
you have the right not to live there.
the private owners personal property rights of stores/homes and other property supersedes your rights, which is how it should be.Last edited by JayBell; November 27th, 2009 at 08:12 PM.
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November 27th, 2009, 08:11 PM #8Super Member
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Re: Can Landlords Ban Guns?
If the lease that you signed when renting the place has a no firearms/weapons clause, then yes, you cannot have guns in the place. He's not "banning" guns, but not allowing them on the premises. However, if your lease does not state this you can have all the guns you want in the place.
If this is in the lease then I only halfway agree with the "what they don't know won't hurt them" crowd. You gave your word when you signed the document, and I'm not one to go back on my word.
The place where I live has such a firearms clause, but I took it up with my landlord before signing it. She is pro RKBA, and has the clause in there as a blanket to protect her and to discourage idiots who may have illegal weapons. I asked her to amend the lease contract to clarify that legally owned weapons are allowed prior to my signing it, and she happily obliged, and I have a signed copy of the amended document, including an extra signature next to said amendment.Sec. 21. The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.
Sec. 25. To guard against transgressions of the high powers which we have delegated, we declare that everything in this article is excepted out of the general powers of government and shall forever remain inviolate.
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November 27th, 2009, 09:15 PM #9
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I know banning gun owners wouldn't be discrimination "legally". But denying a tenant on that criteria alone would meet the definition:
Discrimination is a sociological term referring to the treatment taken toward or against a person of a certain group that is taken in consideration based on class or category.When you are called a racist, it just means you won an argument with an Obama supporter.
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November 27th, 2009, 09:27 PM #10
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Our new landlord said he would be dissappointed if he came by and didnt see racks of guns on the walls
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