MAC-10 vs M-11

[FireGS]

Looking to get one of these...just because of the history around them, but I don't know which to go with! The major difference is the caliber, but I really have no preference.

I'm looking for any opinions on something like a Cobray M-11 vs the new production VMAC45 or Masterpiece Arms MAC-10. Also, are there any mods out there to make them more.. ergonomic?

As far as the collection goes:

I have..
9mm:
Glock17
Sig P266
Beretta 92FS
B&T TP-9
MP5 Clone

45 ACP:
2x USP45's
HK USC

Therefore, the MAC-10 is looking preferable, since I only have three 45's. Convince me that I should get the M-11 :P Then begs the question: VMAC45 or MPA MAC-10? Which is better?

Thoughts? I love having a resource like you guys to help me decide on things..

~FireGS

[Guns4Fun]

I know you don't want to hear this but i wouldn't buy either of them unless they were full auto.

They are too clunky / heavy to make a good pistol and they are not worth the $200 stamp to make them into sbr's. You cant even put a vert. grip on them or add a strap to make them easier to hold without being in violation of the law.

They are not fun shooters as semi auto pistols.

[FireGS]

Really? How come people sell the packages on GB with the strap? AFAIK, a strap is more or less a sling.

REALLY need some definitive clarification on this..

[Guns4Fun]

Really? How come people sell the packages on GB with the strap? AFAIK, a strap is more or less a sling.

REALLY need some definitive clarification on this..

Well, you can wait for others to reply (I would) but I was always under the impression that adding a hand strap to the barrel made it an AOW.

I have no first hand experience with this - I am just going by the things I’ve read / heard over the years.

I don't see how adding a strap to the barrel wouldn't make it an AOW though. A strap is intended as nearly the same thing as a solid vertical grip.

Just because they sell it on GB doesn't make it legal.

I like to err on the side of caution when it comes to NFA stuff - but, I could be wrong.

My point still stands, i wouldn't spend money on either of them as a semi pistol - but different strokes for different folks, as they say.

[FireGS]

Yeah, I just did some quick research, and those auctions are NFA violations. The ATF has never ruled one way or another, but it seems that you're right. Glad I found out about this now.

I have found, however, that some people love them... anyone know why this is?

Some love.. some hate... theres gotta be something there..

[normanvin]

I have two m11's. They are cool. But would I recomend one to someone? I don't know. They are not super accurate.

[FireGS]

I have two m11's. They are cool. But would I recomend one to someone? I don't know. They are not super accurate.

What distance are you shooting at? I plan to shoot at steels at about 15-20 yards.

[normanvin]

What distance are you shooting at? I plan to shoot at steels at about 15-20 yards.

About the same. I never even shot the second one. If you were closer I would let you try them out.

The good thing is they are not horribly expensive.

[normanvin]

I thought I had a pic around. The silver one came with the strap. The other came with a fake suppressor.

[brian]

fyi.
real ingram mac-11's are .380's, not 9x19mm.