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    Default We need Australian style firearm laws. See how that has work of for them?

    Just days ago, Australia's Peter Dutton, Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, and Michael Keenan, Minister for Justice, held a joint press conference to announce "We don't tolerate gun smuggling in Australia and we know Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs are engaged in it. We have been keen to send the strongest possible message from Canberra that we're not going to tolerate people smuggling in guns or smuggling in gun parts. You'd appreciate that even one smuggled gun can do an enormous amount of damage."

    When politicians announce that they don't tolerate something, it's a fair bet that the something is completely out of hand.

    "Police admit they cannot eradicate a black market that is peddling illegal guns to criminals," the Adelaide Advertiser conceded a few years ago. "Motorcycle gang members and convicted criminals barred from buying guns in South Australia have no difficulty obtaining illegal firearms - including fully automatic weapons."

    More recently, the country's The New Daily gained access to "previously unpublished data for firearms offences" and reported a surge in crime "including a massive 83 per cent increase in firearms offences in NSW between 2005/06 and 2014/15, and an even bigger jump in Victoria over the same period."

    "Australians may be more at risk from gun crime than ever before with the country's underground market for firearms ballooning in the past decade," the report added. "[T]he national ban on semi-automatic weapons following the Port Arthur massacre had spawned criminal demand for handguns."

    Much as the Mafia and other organized criminal outfits rose to power, wealth, and prominence by supplying illegal liquor during Prohibition in the United States, outlaw motorcycle gangs in Australia appear to be building international connections and making money by supplying guns to willing buyers.

    It's as if Australian politicians looked at America's experience and said: what the land down under really needs is its own Al Capone—but Mad Max-style, with leather and a hog.
    Then on page two,

    Make no mistake about it, Australia is a generally peaceful country with a 2014 murder rate of 1.0 victims per 100,000 persons and an overall homicide rate, including manslaughter, of 1.8. In 2000 the Australian Institute of Criminology reported "the homicide rate for Australia has stayed remarkably constant. The highest rate recorded over the last 11 years was 2 per 100,000 and the lowest rate was 1.7 per 100,000." So in the intervening years, they've basically seen a continuation of the "modest decline" referred to in the academic assessment cited above.

    By contrast, without Australia's confiscation policy, the United States has seen its murder (including nonnegligent manslaughter) rate drop from 9.3 homicides per 100,000 U.S. residents in 1992 to 4.7 in 2011 and decline further, to 4.5 per 100,000 in 2014, the last year for which full data is available. During this time, the number of firearms in civilian hands increased by roughly 50 percent, to an estimated 300 million.

    Australia’s Gun 'Buyback' Created a Violent Firearms Black Market.

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    Default Re: We need Australian style firearm laws. See how that has work of for them?

    I've mentioned here several times before, the bike gangs and the mob type groups are making big money on illegal imports, illegal manufacture of full auto sub guns or trade in previously banned firearms that escaped being melted down.

    It's probably hard for people here to understand, but in Australia it's far away from the rest of the world and it's easy to think down there you are immune to the world's problems. That affects some of the mentality down under and I think 20 years ago many people thought they could simply firewall themselves off and that banning or heavily restricting certain firearms would solve the problem, but instead it's made it worse.

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    Default Re: We need Australian style firearm laws. See how that has work of for them?

    If our elected representatives would get serious about stopping inner city Black gang/drug shootings, our murder rate using guns would plummet even further. The U.S. is a safer place now than ever. More LEGALLY OWNED guns is one of the reasons.

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