Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
Results 1 to 3 of 3
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    North of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    (Butler County)
    Posts
    174
    Rep Power
    175

    Default After a shooting what to Reveal- thoughts on this article??

    This article by Massad Ayoob is in the current issue (Feb 2009) of Combat Handguns magazine Self-Defense & the Law column. http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...hat-to-reveal/

    It discussed how saying the wrong thing or saying nothing can hang you in court and the need to find the right balance on what to say after a shooting. The article used 8 cases and their outcomes as examples. It ended with Massad advising to use 5 bare bones statements to make:
    1. "This man attacked me"
    2. "I will sign the complaint"
    3. Point out the evidence
    4. Point out any witnesses
    5. "Officer, you'll have my full cooperation after I've spoken with councel."

    I know reading a lot of other discussions on here there is a lot of advice recommending to say nothing until you have had a chance to talk to counsel. There was another article in this issue which supported these 5 statements as a way to talk with the officers and establish yourself as the victim instead of remaining silent and possibly be considered the perpetrator.

    I was just wondering what others thought about Massad's advice?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Reading, Pennsylvania
    (Berks County)
    Age
    39
    Posts
    1,137
    Rep Power
    191

    Default Re: After a shooting what to Reveal- thoughts on this article??

    IANAL, but it seems solid advice. Massad definatley has seen the ugly side of a few shooting trials.

    The main importance is to keep from stating false details about what happened. Direction of travel for you or the BG, shots fired, BG's weapon, etc. If incorrectly stated, it can be used against you to prove you were not fully aware of the situation.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Crawfordsville, Indiana
    Posts
    2,340
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: After a shooting what to Reveal- thoughts on this article??

    Anyone remember Bernhardt Goetz? Man would almost certainly have walked, because a jury would not have convicted him. But he let the adrenaline following the shooting get to him, he flapped his gums, and went to jail.

    If you find yourself in a shooting, you WILL be pumped up. You WILL be feeling exhilirated after having won a life and death battle. You WILL (regardless of gender) be feeling your testosterone, and if you talk, you are liable to say things you don't really feel, and will regret later.

    The cops don't know who you are, they don't know who the bad guy is, and if you start telling them how glad you are that you popped the asshole and how much you'd like to go do it again, they WON'T think you are the good guy. Identify yourself, stake your claim that you had to defend yourself, tell them you want a lawyer before you make a statement, then STFU. By the time the cops get around to questioning you, you will be in a more normal state of mind, they likely have been able to establish through investigation who you are and that the shooting was self defense or defense of others (hopefully it's a fairly clear cut situation, not a bar fight or something,) and with a little luck they will be leaning toward you as being the good guy.
    "Never give up, never surrender!" Commander Peter Quincy Taggart

Similar Threads

  1. Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate
    By RugerNiner in forum General
    Replies: 102
    Last Post: December 12th, 2008, 07:15 PM
  2. Replies: 17
    Last Post: June 23rd, 2008, 02:50 AM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: January 30th, 2008, 05:53 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: January 16th, 2008, 03:06 AM
  5. Replies: 5
    Last Post: December 11th, 2007, 12:09 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •