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February 22nd, 2007, 10:36 AM #1Super Member
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JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT - No it is not, -danp
The post on NFA weapons by JAYBELL is wrong.
PA has no explicit laws against MG ownership as long as you follow Federal laws.
His post stated that ALL NFA is ILLEGAL in PA. That is incorrect.
Please fix the post as it is completly wrong.
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February 22nd, 2007, 11:08 AM #2
Re: JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT
Re-read his post, he does not say mg ownership is illegal in pa, just manufacture. Based on your posts of the past couple of days, you need to get off the caffine.
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February 22nd, 2007, 11:18 AM #3
Re: JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT
No it is not.
Yes it does:
Originally Posted by PCS TItle 18, Ch. 9, § 908. Prohibited offensive weapons.
What this means however is the is is in fact illegal to own these items, but there is a defense if you can prove you have complied with federal law. Technically I believe you could be arrested and would have to wait until trial to prove this which is very stupid, however that happening is unlikely.Last edited by danp; February 22nd, 2007 at 11:22 AM.
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February 22nd, 2007, 02:48 PM #4
Re: JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT - No it is not, -danp
Jay Bell makes mistakes about firearms about once a year, and this isn't one of them. He's a tremendously knowledgeable guy when it comes to firearms.
In fact, PA law DOES prohibit machineguns, silencers, bombs, short-barreled shotguns, switchblades and miscellaneous other devices as "prohibited offensive weapons". With respect to MG's and SBS's, it's an affirmative defense to prove that you have the federal tax stamp (but this won't help with explosive ammo for your M-203).
What this means is that you can be arrested for possessing an MG or SBS, because it's presumed to be unlawful. You have the burden of proving that you complied with federal law. This answers the question "do I have to show my confidential tax form to a cop at the range"; the answer is "yes".
I only know of one place where SBR's are specifically addressed in PA law. Short barreled rifles and shotguns are defined as "firearms" under PA law; see the definitions section of the UFA. This quirk of the law means that a federally transferred Title II SBR or SBS can be carried loaded in your vehicle if you have a PA License to Carry Firearms, where a loaded ordinary Title I rifle (which is a "weapon other than a firearm" under Section 6106.1) could not be. Of course 99 out of 100 cops won't be aware of this (were you before I mentioned it?), so carrying your SBR AR-15 with a full Beta Mag on the passenger seat won't be without some hassles.
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February 22nd, 2007, 07:12 PM #5
Re: JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT - No it is not, -danp
Thanks fellas
I'm wrong a lot more than that for sure, but i try to be careful with the research before i open my Zumbo.
Farbmeister: remember, a big part of reading comprehension is reading the WHOLE sentence before trying to ascertain the meaning, my post says:
"ALL NFA IN PENNSYLVANIA IS ILLEGAL....unless registered under the NFA act of 34..."
thanks for the backup folksLast edited by JayBell; February 22nd, 2007 at 07:28 PM. Reason: spelling
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February 22nd, 2007, 07:54 PM #6
Re: JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT - No it is not, -danp
Wow, somone got OWNED!
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February 22nd, 2007, 08:24 PM #7Super Member
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Re: JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT - No it is not, -danp
Man, how did I miss that?
Public School education failed me big time
I apologize.
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February 22nd, 2007, 09:40 PM #8
Re: JAYBELLS POST IS INCORRECT - No it is not, -danp
If you feel someone has stated false information, please be kind and simply just notify the Admin.
The thread in question will be deleted.
Creating a thread like this only creates bad-vibes.
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