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Thread: Another OC Question for all
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January 15th, 2008, 07:11 PM #1
Another OC Question for all
Well I was in a debate the other week with my girlfriends mom's boyfriend whom is about 40 years old. He is a big supporter of CC and carries all the time. However it turns out he was quite uninformed about OC as when I told him he could OC wherever, even without a license (as long as you're on foot) he said that he never heard of that and also tried telling me OC wasn't legal in PA unless you are a LEO.
Well I promptly showed him this site and gave him one of those "Your Gun Rights in PA" .pdf files for him to print and the statements he'd made earlier were quickly rectified - he thanked me and told me he would try OC'ing now and carry a printout with him.
However something he brought up originally because he didnt know anything about OC nagged at me, he said that if a local ordinance is passed against OC, that would override the PA state law about OC being legal (with or without a permit) and you would have to abide by the local ordinance, else you get fined, arrested, etc..
I told him I was pretty sure this was false but would check up on it, so my question is - is this true or false, with false being the answer i'm leaning towards.
Also I have one more question, if a business/company has a "No guns" sign posted on the front door (pistol with a red slash through it), does that override your LTCW? In this particular situation, these stickers are on the front doors of Wachovias' here in Whitehall, PA.
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January 15th, 2008, 07:21 PM #2
Re: Another OC Question for all
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January 15th, 2008, 07:28 PM #3
Re: Another OC Question for all
As Rwilson said. No.
Why:
In PA we have state wide preemption thanks to §6120. of the UFA
Relevant part:(a) General rule.--No county, municipality or township may in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.
As rwilson pointed out, signs carry no legal weight.
Normal trespass laws apply.
If your CC, don't worry about it.
If your OC I would NOT enter an establishment that displays no guns signs. What would be the point? You know the policy and they will know you are armed. Nothing good can come of that. Not saying you would, just making a general statement of opinion for the masses.
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January 15th, 2008, 07:31 PM #4
Re: Another OC Question for all
*deleted (the gorilla beat me to it)
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January 15th, 2008, 07:36 PM #5
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January 15th, 2008, 07:57 PM #6
Re: Another OC Question for all
If no local jurisdiction can have laws regulating firearm transport and such differing from the State's then how is a LTCF needed for OC in Philly? Or am I misinformed on that requirement?
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January 15th, 2008, 07:57 PM #7Grand Member
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Re: Another OC Question for all
Similar to the image I have when a member asks a law related question, and imagine a buzzer going off at any number of homes across Pa., with all the likely suspects fumbling to be the first to pound out a coherent response complete with case law, charts, section, and proper quotation boxes, and hit the reply button first for bragging rights.
FUCK BIDEN
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January 15th, 2008, 08:03 PM #8
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Because it is part of the UFA (§6108) IE: State law
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January 15th, 2008, 08:04 PM #10
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