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    You might be a Constitutionalist if.....

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    1. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that every congressman, senator, President, and Supreme Court justice is required to obey the U.S. Constitution.

    2. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that before the United States invades and occupies another country, Congress must first declare war.

    3. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe the federal government should live within its means, like everyone else is forced to do.

    4. You might be a Constitutionalist if you think that taking away people's liberties in the name of security is not patriotic, nor does it make the country more secure.

    5. You might be a Constitutionalist if you would like to see politicians be forced to abide by the same laws they make everyone else submit to.

    6. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that we have three "separate but equal" branches of government that are supposed to hold each other in check and balance.

    7. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the federal government has no authority to be involved in education or law enforcement, or in any other issue that the Tenth Amendment reserves to the States, or to the People.

    8. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that gun control laws do nothing but aid and abet criminals while trampling the rights and freedoms of law-abiding citizens.

    9. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the income tax is both unconstitutional and immoral, and, along with the I.R.S. and the Federal Reserve, should be abolished.

    10. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe the federal government had no authority to tell former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore that he could not display a monument containing the Ten Commandments in the Alabama Judicial Building in Montgomery; or to tell a Pace, Florida, high school principal that he could not pray before a meal.

    11. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that Congress or the White House or any sovereign State is not required to submit to unconstitutional Supreme Court rulings.

    12. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that freedom has nothing in common with illegal immigration.

    13. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that outsourcing American jobs overseas is not good for America.

    14. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the United States should get out of the United Nations and get the United Nations out of the United States.

    15. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that it is not unconstitutional for children in public schools to pray or read the Bible.

    16. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the Boy Scouts are not a threat to America.

    17. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the federal government should honor its commitments to America's veterans and stop using U.S. military personnel as guinea pigs for testing drugs and chemicals.

    18. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that U.S. troops should never serve under foreign commanders or wear the uniform or insignia of the United Nations, and that they must never submit to illegal orders, such as turning their weapons against American citizens, or confiscating the guns of U.S. citizens.

    19. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the federal government has no business bribing churches and faith-based organizations with federal tax dollars.

    20. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that federal agents who murder American citizens should be held to the same laws and punishments that any other citizen would be held to. (Can anyone say, "Waco" and "Ruby Ridge"?)

    21. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that NAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and the FTAA (and similar agreements) are disastrous compromises of America's national sovereignty and independence.

    22. You might be a Constitutionalist if you would like to see congressmen and senators be required to actually read a bill before passing it into law.

    23. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that it is the job of government to protect and secure God-given rights, not use its power to take those rights away.

    24. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that there is nothing unconstitutional about the public acknowledgement of God and our Christian heritage.

    25. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that government bailouts and "stimulus" expenditures defy virtually every principle of free enterprise and are a flagrant leap into socialism.

    26. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that airport screeners have no business touching women's breasts, using sophisticated machinery to look through passengers' clothing to see their naked bodies, confiscating fingernail clippers, or denying pilots from carrying handguns.

    27. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that many public schools' "zero-tolerance" policies are just plain stupid.

    28. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that parents have a right to homeschool their children.

    29. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that governmental seizure of private property is plain, old-fashioned thievery.

    30. You might be a Constitutionalist if you are personally determined to not submit to any kind of forced vaccination.

    31. You might be a Constitutionalist if you oppose any kind of national health insurance.

    32. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that U.S. troops are not the world's policemen, that they are not "nation-builders," and that their purpose is only to defend American lives and property, not to be the enforcement arm of international commercial interests or global elitists.

    33. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that the county Sheriff is the highest law enforcement officer of his district and that federal law enforcement (much of which is unconstitutionally organized, anyway) is obligated to submit to his authority.

    34. You might be a Constitutionalist if you are determined to oppose America's merger with any kind of regional, hemispheric, or international government, such as the North American Union.

    35. You might be a Constitutionalist if you oppose sending billions of taxpayer dollars as foreign aid; the U.S. State Department meddling into the private affairs of foreign countries; and ubiquitous foreign entanglements that require vast sums of money, create animosity and hostility towards us, and expose us to foreign wars and conflicts in which we have no national interest.

    36. You might be a Constitutionalist if you would like to meet one single congressman or senator besides Ron Paul who acts as if he or she has ever read the U.S. Constitution.


    Turns out I'M a Constitutionalist!!!

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    Default Re: You might be a Constitutionalist if.....

    Apparently, I have to spread the rep around first.

    Nice post. You are quickly becoming somebody to watch on PAFOA.

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    Default Re: You might be a Constitutionalist if.....

    Dang! Here I thought I was an Independant Conservative and now I find out I'm a Constitutionalist!

    Now what to do about it?

    Good post buster

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    Default Re: You might be a Constitutionalist if.....

    Well there are none in D.C. for sure...

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    Default Re: You might be a Constitutionalist if.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PocketProtector View Post
    Well there are none in D.C. for sure...
    When everyone in your town makes their living off the government, why would they want a smaller government?

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    Default Re: You might be a Constitutionalist if.....

    Quote Originally Posted by buster2209 View Post
    You might be a Constitutionalist if.....

    Taken from http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c200..._20091020.html


    1. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that every congressman, senator, President, and Supreme Court justice is required to obey the U.S. Constitution.

    2. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that before the United States invades and occupies another country, Congress must first declare war.

    3. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe the federal government should live within its means, like everyone else is forced to do.

    4. You might be a Constitutionalist if you think that taking away people's liberties in the name of security is not patriotic, nor does it make the country more secure.

    5. You might be a Constitutionalist if you would like to see politicians be forced to abide by the same laws they make everyone else submit to.

    6. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that we have three "separate but equal" branches of government that are supposed to hold each other in check and balance.

    7. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the federal government has no authority to be involved in education or law enforcement, or in any other issue that the Tenth Amendment reserves to the States, or to the People.

    8. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that gun control laws do nothing but aid and abet criminals while trampling the rights and freedoms of law-abiding citizens.

    9. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the income tax is both unconstitutional and immoral, and, along with the I.R.S. and the Federal Reserve, should be abolished.

    10. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe the federal government had no authority to tell former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore that he could not display a monument containing the Ten Commandments in the Alabama Judicial Building in Montgomery; or to tell a Pace, Florida, high school principal that he could not pray before a meal.

    11. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that Congress or the White House or any sovereign State is not required to submit to unconstitutional Supreme Court rulings.

    12. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that freedom has nothing in common with illegal immigration.

    13. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that outsourcing American jobs overseas is not good for America.

    14. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the United States should get out of the United Nations and get the United Nations out of the United States.

    15. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that it is not unconstitutional for children in public schools to pray or read the Bible.

    16. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the Boy Scouts are not a threat to America.

    17. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the federal government should honor its commitments to America's veterans and stop using U.S. military personnel as guinea pigs for testing drugs and chemicals.

    18. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that U.S. troops should never serve under foreign commanders or wear the uniform or insignia of the United Nations, and that they must never submit to illegal orders, such as turning their weapons against American citizens, or confiscating the guns of U.S. citizens.

    19. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that the federal government has no business bribing churches and faith-based organizations with federal tax dollars.

    20. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that federal agents who murder American citizens should be held to the same laws and punishments that any other citizen would be held to. (Can anyone say, "Waco" and "Ruby Ridge"?)

    21. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that NAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and the FTAA (and similar agreements) are disastrous compromises of America's national sovereignty and independence.

    22. You might be a Constitutionalist if you would like to see congressmen and senators be required to actually read a bill before passing it into law.

    23. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that it is the job of government to protect and secure God-given rights, not use its power to take those rights away.

    24. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that there is nothing unconstitutional about the public acknowledgement of God and our Christian heritage.

    25. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that government bailouts and "stimulus" expenditures defy virtually every principle of free enterprise and are a flagrant leap into socialism.

    26. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that airport screeners have no business touching women's breasts, using sophisticated machinery to look through passengers' clothing to see their naked bodies, confiscating fingernail clippers, or denying pilots from carrying handguns.

    27. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that many public schools' "zero-tolerance" policies are just plain stupid.

    28. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that parents have a right to homeschool their children.

    29. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that governmental seizure of private property is plain, old-fashioned thievery.

    30. You might be a Constitutionalist if you are personally determined to not submit to any kind of forced vaccination.

    31. You might be a Constitutionalist if you oppose any kind of national health insurance.

    32. You might be a Constitutionalist if you believe that U.S. troops are not the world's policemen, that they are not "nation-builders," and that their purpose is only to defend American lives and property, not to be the enforcement arm of international commercial interests or global elitists.

    33. You might be a Constitutionalist if you understand that the county Sheriff is the highest law enforcement officer of his district and that federal law enforcement (much of which is unconstitutionally organized, anyway) is obligated to submit to his authority.

    34. You might be a Constitutionalist if you are determined to oppose America's merger with any kind of regional, hemispheric, or international government, such as the North American Union.

    35. You might be a Constitutionalist if you oppose sending billions of taxpayer dollars as foreign aid; the U.S. State Department meddling into the private affairs of foreign countries; and ubiquitous foreign entanglements that require vast sums of money, create animosity and hostility towards us, and expose us to foreign wars and conflicts in which we have no national interest.

    36. You might be a Constitutionalist if you would like to meet one single congressman or senator besides Ron Paul who acts as if he or she has ever read the U.S. Constitution.


    Turns out I'M a Constitutionalist!!!
    You came here for the sex,drugs and rock & roll and became a Constitutonalist instead, +1 for America, -1 for England.
    Government 99 and 44/100 % pure bullshit.

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    Posted this link on facebook, and got the following response:

    That article makes the point that all three branches of government should exercise checks and balances over each other, and then says that the other branches of government should be allowed to disregard Supreme Court rulings when they disagree with them (sanctity in a ruling is the one way for the judicial branch to have any check over the other ... Read Morebranches). Contradictory much?

    This sounds like highly conservative rhetoric disguised as Libertarianism (which I'm assuming must be correlated to constitutionalism if Marc Tancer likes this post). Don't Libertarians believe in free enterprise and that corporations should be able to outsource if they want? See #13. Don't Libertarians support the First Amendment, which separates Church and state (wouldn't uniting the two give the gov. too much power)? See point #24...I personally believe in God, but it seems to me that "the acknowledgment of God and our Christian heritage" implies God's existence and reinforces Christian beliefs. While I personally believe in spreading the word of my religion, I do not feel it is fair to use my government as a tool to do so. And yet Constitutionalists support housing the Ten Commandments in government courtrooms? There is a line between a history lesson and upholding ideology, and such a policy is flirting with if not crossing that line. #33- It's scary to think that people actually believe FBI and CIA agents should submit to backwoods bumpkin county sheriffs.

    Additionally, the Ameri-centrism of this philosophy is sickening. It seems to propose that America should sit on its little island apart from the rest of the world (no UN, WTO, etc.). Wake up! This is the 21st century- we are part of, scratch that- THE LEADERS OF- a globally interconnected world. You're still living in the 18th century!
    My response was as follows:

    Alright…let’s begin

    “That article makes the point that all three branches of government should exercise checks and balances over each other, and then says that the other branches of government should be allowed to disregard Supreme Court rulings when they disagree with them”

    The article clearly specifies unconstitutional supreme court rulings…things that are so blatantly obviously against the interest of, or in clear violation of, the Constitution. Things that, for example, prohibit all gun ownership in violation of the Second Amendment, court cases that rule against the First Amendment. The following court cases are excellent examples where the Supreme Court was most obviously wrong:

    Minersville School District v. Gobitis, (1940) held that a public school could expel pupils who refused to salute the flag because they were Jehovah’s Witnesses. Overruled by Supreme Court decision West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943)

    Valentine v. Chrestensen (1942) held that commercial speech had no First Amendment protection. Overruled by Supreme Court decision Virginia State Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council (1976)

    Don't Libertarians believe in free enterprise and that corporations should be able to outsource if they want?

    Yes…and I believe in it as well. However, knowing it isn’t good and outlawing or taking other action against companies that do are two different things. We have priced ourselves out of many labor markets, in search of cheap goods. And that is capitalism…however, it is important to recognize (again, not punish those that outsource, but notice for our own benefit) that a service-based economy is very unstable, and prone to severe hits during worldwide economic recessions and depressions, as we have seen recently.

    Don't Libertarians support the First Amendment, which separates Church and state (wouldn't uniting the two give the gov. too much power)? See point #24...I personally believe in God, but it seems to me that "the acknowledgment of God and our Christian heritage" implies God's existence and reinforces Christian beliefs. While I personally believe in spreading the word of my religion, I do not feel it is fair to use my government as a tool to do so.

    Where in the First Amendment does it say that Church and State shall be completely separated? It said that the government shall make no laws regarding any religion, or shall it prohibit the free exercise thereof. That does not mean that we cannot have “In God We Trust” on our money (no First Amendment violation), display a cross or the Ten Commandments in a courtroom (again, where is the First Amendment violation?), pray in Congress or school, have a Chaplain that practices the Christian faith in the military, or sing God Bless America. The government can not force one to do any of these things, and likewise it cannot punish you if you do or don’t. We are a nation that was founded by mainly Christian founders…using Christian ideals. We accept all people, all faith systems (that don’t violate other laws such as polygamy, child marriage, etc.) and don’t require one to practice a certain religion to be a citizen. But we should not deny our heritage because someone doesn’t agree with it or doesn’t like it. And I agree…we should not be using government money to push a particular religion. But displaying something and actively pushing religion on people are two different things; the crusades were pushing religion, merely wearing a cross t-shirt or displaying the Ten commandments is not quite the same.

    “#33- It's scary to think that people actually believe FBI and CIA agents should submit to backwoods bumpkin county sheriffs.”

    The practical application of this is not that local sheriffs would be running the show, but rather to show that many of the federal laws that federal agents are trying to enforce should be state laws; laws on firearms, laws on money laundering, laws on wiretapping. Unless it crosses state lines, involves national defense, or the state specifically asks the federal government for help, the federal government has no business or authority being involved in many of the areas it currently polices. The ATF is unconstitutional and severely infringes on states’ rights, regulating both interstate and intrastate manufacture, transportation, and sales of tobacco, alcohol, and firearms; these should be state rights under the 10th Amendment, but states are prohibited from enacting their own laws unless they are stricter; they get around the law by assuming everything is for interstate commerce. The federal government (secret service, other agencies) can ‘federalize’ an area if they feel like it, suspending all rights granted by the state to its citizens in favor of rules/laws that they can make up and change. If you don’t believe this, check out coverage of the G20 in Pittsburgh. This is unconstitutional and should not be allowed under any circumstances.

    The basic takeaway message here is that the federal government should stick to what it has the authority to do. And the CIA should not be operating inside the USA.

    “Additionally, the Ameri-centrism of this philosophy is sickening. It seems to propose that America should sit on its little island apart from the rest of the world (no UN, WTO, etc.). Wake up! This is the 21st century- we are part of, scratch that- THE LEADERS OF- a globally interconnected world. You're still living in the 18th century!”

    The idea is not that we need to be completely Ameri-centristic, but rather that we should not be completely bending over to other countries. We should not be circumventing US law through treaties, we should not be sending taxpayer money to other countries when we ourselves have massive deficits, we should not be involved in the affairs of other countries when they don’t want us there, and it is absolutely not the role of US troops to be used overseas as ‘nation builders’ or ‘policemen’. We should be forming mutually beneficial trade unions, meeting with all nations to discuss world issues. The UN is a useless organization that has little power, is funded primarily by the United States, makes decisions that can directly conflict with the best interest of the US; why should we continue fronting the bill for this? We should get rid of the entire thing, start from scratch, and have it meet the demands that the world needs now; we should not be pouring money down a hole and getting nothing in return.

    In conclusion, this is a conservative mentality…that what I earn should be mine. That the government should stick within its granted authority, and that anything not directly given to them should be within the states’ purview. That social security, welfare, and healthcare are not rights, they are privileges. That companies that practice poor accounting and can’t sustain themselves should not be bailed out, they should be allowed to fall flat on their faces; in their stead will rise up another company that is stronger, more efficient, leaner, and will need employees for future technologies. That stimulus programs are unconstitutional. And that this country has the potential to break the cycle that all superpowers go through (Oppression – Revolution – Involvement – Complacency - Opression) if only government size can be limited, personal liberties can be protected as they are outlined in the Constitution, and, at the end of the day, we do not bow to countries that want to harm or destroy us simply because someone else wanted us to.
    And don't think you're off the hook, voters, you're the ones who made this bed. Now you're the ones who are going to have to move over so a gay couple can sleep in it. Tomorrow you're all going to wake up in a brave new world, a world where the Constitution gets trampled by an army of terrorist clones, created in a stem-cell research lab run by homosexual doctors who sterilize their instruments over burning American flags. -- Stephen Colbert

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    Quote Originally Posted by redeye202 View Post
    You came here for the sex,drugs and rock & roll and became a Constitutonalist instead, +1 for America, -1 for England.
    I have been a Libertarian for a several years now. America was founded on Libertarian principles, albeit it has strayed from that path for quite some time now....

    Oh, and I came here for my wife, but the freedom here did that make that an easy choice!!
    Last edited by buster2209; October 21st, 2009 at 06:59 PM.

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    Haha, my favourite bit;

    “#33- It's scary to think that people actually believe FBI and CIA agents should submit to backwoods bumpkin county sheriffs.”
    Whoever the hell wrote this has obviously never read the constitution, specifically the tenth amendment.

    The entire post by this person was just the usual big government crap that people spout when there only source of information are the talking heads on TV.

    I'm betting you never received a response back?

    Excellent retort by the way, rep sent!

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    should I change my facebook political views from Ron Paul to Constitutionalists or do they come hand-in-hand? =)
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