NYPD pays "aggressive" cops extra

[WhiteFeather]

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$ICCING THE COPS
By LARRY CELONA

August 13, 2007 -- The NYPD's new patrol chief has ordered that special overtime money earmarked for cops in violence-prone precincts be given to "aggressive" officers rather than "do-nothings," The Post has learned.
Chief Robert Giannelli issued that edict last week during a meeting with his borough chiefs, who then relayed it to their precinct commanders, sources said.

His order affects a pool of funds known as Impact Overtime.

In some boroughs, that money has gone only to veteran cops permanently assigned to precincts that have high incidences of shooting and other violence.

In other boroughs, the funds have been made available to veteran patrol officers who work overtime in such precincts on special duty, without being permanently assigned to them.

But Giannelli, a 40-year department veteran who took the top patrol job last month, now has said the system should reward cops who use their overtime shifts to make a lot of arrests involving higher-profile crimes such as gun possession, shootings and robberies.

Sources said Giannelli also wants to reward cops who use their overtime shifts to issue a lot of summonses and who do numerous "stop-and-frisks" of people who match the descriptions of criminal suspects.

"The chief wants to give the overtime to aggressive cops and not to do-nothings," one source said.

"Do-nothing" cops are considered those who never leave their patrol cars or ones who primarily work inside a precinct house.

Another source said Giannelli wants the OT to go to "intelligently aggressive" cops, such as ones who manage to avert civilian complaints by adequately explaining to people why they are being stopped and frisked.

In response to the new policy, some precincts already have compiled lists of their top-performing officers - when it comes to arrests - and forwarded the lists to the borough commanders.

Sources also said bosses have been told not to worry in the future about their officers' names appearing on lists of cops who have received large amounts of overtime.

In the past, such bosses have been told to cut down on those officers' overtime.

Giannelli's overtime order comes amid an ongoing decline in the kinds of crimes considered a top priority by the NYPD.

As of Aug. 5, there had been 289 murders in New York City since the beginning of 2007. That is a 13.2 percent drop from last year, when there were 333 murders as of Aug. 5, according to the NYPD.

Shooting incidents have declined slightly, by 1 percent, with 842 so far in 2007 compared to 853 last year. The number of people shot in those cases dropped 3 percent, to 994 from 1,025 in 2006.

Overall, reported crime is down 6.8 percent in 2007 compared to 2006.

larry.celona@nypost.com

[LorDiego01]

Nice!

With the extra money, they can buy heavier boots to stomp on the heads of the populace!

What a fantastic idea!

[brewguy]

I don't see the problem with this. the wording could be better. My thought is all departments should do this.

[MarcS]

Nice!

With the extra money, they can buy heavier boots to stomp on the heads of the populace!

What a fantastic idea!

Yes, imagine, a boot stomping on a human face for time and a half.

[BearTitan]

I pose this question to the group: What would be an alternative way for the city to lower crime in these high-crime areas?

[LorDiego01]

I pose this question to the group: What would be an alternative way for the city to lower crime in these high-crime areas?

Lets see...

1) Decriminalize drugs.
2) Re-Legalize prostitution..

basically, destroy the black market of vices that funds and fuels criminal enterprises.

[TonyF]

To Marc and Diego, you guys may be jumping to a conclusion.

The term "aggressive" in the context of the article doesn't necessarily equate to the application of force. My reading of its meaning is a reference that LEO's "apply themselves" in the execution of their duties.

True story:

A Pgh City LEO I know personally was teamed up with a slovenly middle aged, over weight, "I don't want to get involved" partner. A call goes out of a man with a gun. Slovenly was driving so my acquaintance picks up the mic and took the call that they would respond. Slovenly was mightily P.O.'ed.

He reluctantly puts the cruiser into gear and they head down E. Carson street in the south side, siren wailing and lights flashing at the breakneck speed of 25mph. Slovenly was purposely driving slow in the hopes the man with the gun would be gone by the time they arrived on scene.

[Atomic Dog]

Honstly BT, those areas will have to do it on their own. They got themselves into the life of street violence and the general attitude and as a part of that they highly despise authority and police officers. Any attempt from outside will likely fail.

The main problem is economic and is is largely from us. We need to get more of the inner city violent offenders into meaningful jobs while reducing the ability for them to make money on the side selling things that are currently illegal (drugs, guns) as well as the easy money of welfare (also reduces the number or single moms)

Now if we just pulled out the rug from their feet it would backfire a bit. The final piece of the puzzle is the worship of anything un-intellectual in these communities. It is an outrage to see kids made fun of for being good in school and "acting white". Until these people learn proper job skills and learn to take responsibility for their own actions the problem will never be solved.

[1FingrCHan]

I pose this question to the group: What would be an alternative way for the city to lower crime in these high-crime areas?

Bravo, people tend to bitch and whine when they see cops roughing suspects up. Then again some cops are out to beat up people, it seems. Too soft a police force, the criminals would run a mock. Too tough a police force, the city looks like some oppressive police state.

Take Singapore for an example. It fines people heavily simply for sticking chewing gums up the park benches. It cane whips little punks who sprayed paint fine nice Mercedes Benz, he he heh........then here you have some young American punks going out and egg the neighbor houses on Halloween night.

Back on this question, I would suggest the police patrols the troubled area often. Intercept drug and gang activities by stationing the police inside the bad area, as it seems these two activities result in the most shootings and murders in the big cities.

Form neighborhood watches. A strong supporting network of neighborhood community is more united than some little group of drug dealing gang members. And finally, the police should befriend the community. They need the people to come forward with informations about suspected gang and drug activities.......because without them, the police is useless for capturing and ultimately help convicting suspects. he he heh



1FingrCHan

[Emptymag]

...Until these people learn proper job skills and learn to take responsibility for their own actions the problem will never be solved.

There's your solution and the reality all in one.