IR target designators

**Eugene V. Debs** · August 26th, 2009, 10:38 PM

The laser sights that are only visible with night vision.

Most of the American manufacturers say they will sell only to military or law enforcement, but Kalinka optics was selling them a few months ago (though I don't see them advertised on the site now). What's the deal? Is this a legal thing or some kind of handshake deal with the Feds to self-regulate?

**Pvandunk** · August 26th, 2009, 10:43 PM

Insight sells to Civies

**panther76** · September 1st, 2009, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Eugene V. Debs

The laser sights that are only visible with night vision.

Most of the American manufacturers say they will sell only to military or law enforcement, but Kalinka optics was selling them a few months ago (though I don't see them advertised on the site now). What's the deal? Is this a legal thing or some kind of handshake deal with the Feds to self-regulate?

1. Make sure you have a way to mount the IR securely to hold a zero.

2. Spend the money on Gen 3+ NVG that don't need an illuminator. When you have nvgs on and see someone with older nvgs on or newer NVGs with the active IR turned on, it is like watching someone with a floodlight on their head. You want something akin to the 7D or later if you can afford it. 14s are even better.

3. Get a PASGT or an ACH/mich with mount. Using a head harness is crap.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...er_Aiming.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ng_Device.html

Those are the two models I've used on an M4. And remember, if the BG has NVGs, IR designators, like tracers, work both ways!