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April 29th, 2008, 09:31 PM #21
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April 30th, 2008, 10:45 PM #22
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April 30th, 2008, 11:50 PM #23
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Re: How do you answer this argument?
My response: the genie is out of the bottle in the United States. We have over 200 million firearms on the street. A ban wouldn't make them go "poof" into thin air. When you pass that ban, you will create a massive, thriving black market. My proof? Look at drugs. Now we all know that dope is illegal. You get 20 years (20 years! I can commit a rape and not get that!!!!
) for trafficking in heroin or meth or crack....yet those are still a problem, aren't they? The moment you disarm the citizens, most of those guns will truly wind up on the streets, in the hands of very bad people.
Also: criminals are already breaking the law and committing felonies, yes? So you are essentially saying that the felon who is saying "alright, I'm gonna go kill the hoodies on the next block, then hold up the liquor store, then go shake down that pimp for protection money, then go rape that girl who snitched..." is then going to say "but, OH NOES! *gAsP*my guns are illegal! I better not take them!". Ludicrous.
I also take this tack with them: Ask them who's job it is to defend them. If they say it is the cops, I usually engage them in an argument where I try to get them to admit that if it is the police's responsibility, then they should be held accountable for a failure in that responsibility, right? Essentially, if you get mugged, you should be able to sue the cops.
You cannot. The SCotUS has repeatedly upheld that it is not the job of the police to protect you, nor are they liable for crime committed against you. Inherently then, the question is, whose job is it. And then: how do you defend yourself against an armed attacker when politicians have disarmed you.
If they get really pissy and keep talking about how great Britain is, I advise that they actually live there before they say anything else. Britain is a nascent police state, they'll find its not as happy a place as they think it is, especially when you are obligated to sacrifice your self instead of defending yourself.
Good statement.Last edited by OneLungMcClung; April 30th, 2008 at 11:55 PM.
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May 1st, 2008, 12:03 AM #24
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Re: How do you answer this argument?
If it weren't for guns, we'd all still be in Britain.
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