Assault Weapons Ban....

**Dredly** · December 8th, 2008, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Swarner793

This is what makes it even worse, from Wikipedia (thanks Hawk):

Assault Weapons Ban 2008 bill
H.R. 6257 was introduced by Mark Kirk [R IL-10] on June 12, 2008 and seeks to re-instate the Assault Weapons Ban for a period of ten years, as well as to expand the list of banned weapons. The bill was also referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security on 7/28/08. It has four co-sponsors (as of November 5, 2008) supporting it:

Rep Castle, Michael N. - [R DE-1] - 6/12/2008
Rep Ferguson, Mike - [R NJ-7] - 6/12/2008
Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana - [R FL-18] - 6/18/2008
Rep Shays, Christopher - [R CT-4] - 6/12/2008

Those are big R(s) there. The cliche` "the Dems will take your guns" does not hold up in this case. I am fed up with all of them, and I am a Republican Committee Member. None of them give a shit about individual rights. It is infuriating and maddening all at the same time!!!

Be safe (and respect the individual).

Scott

I could be wrong but haven't most of the major gun control bills been signed into law by Republican presidents? (with the exception of the AWB fo 1994).

It isn't a R vs D, its a "We want your votes and the votes in my area are going to gun control or the votes in my area are going against gun control".

Statistically its been proven that the D's represent urban locations and the R's represent the rural and non-urban area's. The reason that the D's appear to be more anti-gun is because the cities are more violent and have more gun crime, so blasting guns is a positive, in the rural area's gun crime is less frequent so slamming guns = slamming hunting = bad.

An R in an urban area will typically do the exact same thing as a D in the same area, when in rome...

Its not a D/R its a Urban vs Rural, and Urban typically has a lot more voting power

**pacodelahoya** · December 8th, 2008, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Legion_Prime

Yeah, however their idea of common sense seem about on par with sticking a fork in a wall outlet to see if it still hurts as much today as it did yesterday.

No, it's more on par with voting for Obama, then coming on this website and telling the true Americans that "Now that he is president, we have to stick together."

Fuckin maggots.

Can't wait till the fun starts.

I'm just like santy claus.

**Spoiler** · December 10th, 2008, 10:33 PM

Amazing how quickly this country spirals out of reason ..God Help Us!!

I just don't know.... the things I see and read and hear anymore are nothing less then Treason in my book and nothing is done..WTF are ya suppose to do?? I vote and I inform myself as much as possible before doing so..

The US is 229 years young ..that would be 3 to 4 generations old right??

I just don't get it .......talk about screwing up a wet dream....

**Frenchy** · December 11th, 2008, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Spoiler

Amazing how quickly this country spirals out of reason ..God Help Us!!

I just don't know.... the things I see and read and hear anymore are nothing less then Treason in my book and nothing is done..WTF are ya suppose to do?? I vote and I inform myself as much as possible before doing so..

The US is 229 years young ..that would be 3 to 4 generations old right??

I just don't get it .......talk about screwing up a wet dream....

Actually, If I remember correctly, a generation is 20 years.

**bumpbs** · December 11th, 2008, 01:28 AM

Studies show that these gun bans and laws only hurt law abiding gun hobbyist (hunters, collecters, or those that seek self protection). The criminals are always going to find a way, because they don’t abide by the laws.

**imperialism2024** · December 11th, 2008, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by adymond

To me that just proves the Democrats are really Communists/Socialists/EXTREME Liberals and the Republicans are now liberals.

Or that gun control exists independently of party lines, and the NRA's ploy to pit "pro-gun" versus "anti-gun" candidates has failed. As I've said before, we need to make gun owners' rights a bipartisan issue. And alienating Democrats at every opportunity does nothing to further that. Abrasive and juvenile comments like post #22 make me question whether I should support gun owners' rights.

Just kidding about self-doubt in my committment to gun owners' rights. One, one thousand, or one million imbecilic gun owners don't change the significance and importance of the Second Amendment as originally intended.

**david1** · December 11th, 2008, 10:30 AM

Who needs an AK?...................... Ummmmmm me thats who. They better outlaw KFC if they outlaw the AK.

**billamj** · December 11th, 2008, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by imperialism2024

Or that gun control exists independently of party lines, and the NRA's ploy to pit "pro-gun" versus "anti-gun" candidates has failed. As I've said before, we need to make gun owners' rights a bipartisan issue. And alienating Democrats at every opportunity does nothing to further that. Abrasive and juvenile comments like post #22 make me question whether I should support gun owners' rights.

Just kidding about self-doubt in my committment to gun owners' rights. One, one thousand, or one million imbecilic gun owners don't change the significance and importance of the Second Amendment as originally intended.

Not trying to start an argument here but I think that the bottom line of a lot of gun owners is that the Democrat party retains so much anti-gun, anti-2A language in their party platform that they feel there is virtually no chance of changing the direction of that party. If you look at the national level there are no pro-2A, pro-gun leaders in the Dem party. Until such time as people see changes at that level they will feel that they have no partners within the party and so... Just my $.02