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December 28th, 2014, 11:36 AM #11
Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
Hmmmm.... OK.
No explanation as to "why" is required. Issuing to non-res is provided for right in the statutes.
Same process as resident, except that proof of license in home state (if that state does issue) is required.
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December 28th, 2014, 06:54 PM #12Member
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Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
My response to the request for a letter of justification would have been as follows:
Dear Sheriff:
As a courtesy, and despite the fact that your demand to do so is in violation of Pennsylvania preemption statute, I am writing in response to your stated, but unenforceable requirement for a written statement of justification to acquire a Pennsylvania non-resident license to carry a firearm.
Per the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act - Title 18 - Chapter 61, as a citizen of the United States and a holder of a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm in my state of residency, I am entitled to issuance of a Pennsylvania non-resident License To Carry a Firearm (LTCF) by any and ALL Pennsylvania County Sheriffs.
Enclosed is my payment of the Pennsylvania mandated fee, a completed and signed Pennsylvania State Police form SP4-127 and a copy of the valid LTCF issued to me by my state of residency. Provided I have no enumerated offenses or other disqualifying factors as evidenced by a PICS background check, you are required to issue me a Pennsylvania non-resident LTCF within forty-five (45) days of receipt of the hereinabove stated enclosures and fee payment.
I look forward to your timely issuance and my receipt of a Pennsylvania non-resident License To Carry a Firearm (LTCF).
Regards,
XXXXXXXXXX
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December 29th, 2014, 09:54 AM #13
Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
Yeah. Thats gonna work.
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December 29th, 2014, 10:37 AM #14Member
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Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
I'm sure it would
A PA Sheriff has no legal alternative and is now liable for plaintiff attorney fees and court costs associated with preemption violation litigation. Not to mention a potential 1st class misdemeanor charge and conviction.
Time to grow some and hold our elected civil servants to their oaths of office. Or I suppose we can just go along to get along, while continuing to whine and lament the deterioration of our rights. It's an individual choice. What's yours?
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December 29th, 2014, 11:44 AM #15
Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
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December 29th, 2014, 12:09 PM #16Member
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Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
Technically, you're wrong, in Philadelphia County the license is issued by the Philadelphia Police Commissioner (Chief).
The PPD FU is merely a functionary of the Chief, and a SO firearm unit is a functionary of the Sheriff.
But I kind of think we're just splitting hairs here.
§ 6109. Licenses.
(a) Purpose of license.--A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle throughout this Commonwealth.
(b) Place of application.--An individual who is 21 years of age or older may apply to a sheriff for a license to carry a firearm concealed on or about his person or in a vehicle within this Commonwealth. If the applicant is a resident of this Commonwealth, he shall make application with the sheriff of the county in which he resides or, if a resident of a city of the first class, with the chief of police of that city.
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December 29th, 2014, 02:11 PM #17
Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
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January 3rd, 2015, 10:23 PM #18Junior Member
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Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
5 days later and it showed up in the mail with a little note saying "we apologize for any inconvenience". Can't complain about that service.
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November 30th, 2015, 12:00 AM #19Member
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November 30th, 2015, 02:38 PM #20Member
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Re: Non-Resident License to Carry Firearms
Just called today - individual who answered the phone said I was required to submit the letter as well. I informed him that wasn't part of PA state law - and he said it was part of the sheriff's discretion and if I didn't want to submit the letter I could go to another county. He then hung up.
Suggestions?
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