Are any of those Turkish bullpup semi 12s any good?

**Zet70** · May 18th, 2023, 08:40 PM

Been seeing them for years. Always curious. Are any of them g2g? Take saiga mags?

Let's hear it gents!

**knight0334** · May 18th, 2023, 09:14 PM

An "uncle in law" of mine has a Turkish 12ga semi-auto that looks something like that - a bullpup design, but with a angled foregrip, more shrouded barrel, and in white color..

During our last family get together we all took turns shooting it. It functioned just fine with the birdshot loads I fired. I was able to burp out 5rds faster than I could recover from the recoil. lol

He said he paid around the $300 mark for his.

**Emptymag** · May 18th, 2023, 10:07 PM

I can't believe I haven't bought one. I mean "Anything under $400" is my kind of gun!
I think I'm in the same boat though - I'm interested, but there are SO MANY that it's hard to know what's worth buying, and what's outright junk.

From what he's saying in this vid, apparently many of them use the same mags, so that's a good thing to know.

**RockIsland** · May 18th, 2023, 10:23 PM

One of them was AK based. I don't remember which one and I haven't seen it around anywhere for a while.

**bogey1** · May 18th, 2023, 10:30 PM

That's cheap. Pro2a has the tokarev for 300.00 https://pro2a-tactical.com/tokarev-t...o-shotgun.html

**glocknurse** · May 19th, 2023, 05:50 AM

Maybe the Panzer Arms BP12. I've never tried one but I've heard really good things about other Panzer Arms shotguns (Benelli M4 clone).

**McSull** · May 19th, 2023, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by RockIsland

One of them was AK based. I don't remember which one and I haven't seen it around anywhere for a while.

Garaysar?

**RockIsland** · May 19th, 2023, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by McSull

Garaysar?

I dunno but I like their Fear 103 AK12 with the wood furniture and cleaning rod. They were under $500 when they first came out.

**Rural Ruger** · May 19th, 2023, 09:11 AM

Neither is a bull pup, but I see some manufacturing similarities between my T4 (Beneli clone) and my VR60. I get the idea a handful of factories turn out all the different models.

The word is that most if what the Turks put out these days is pretty good though, and both of mine appear well built. My T4 is still going through break in so cant comment fully on that one.