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January 26th, 2017, 08:56 PM #21
Re: electric heat problems?
There were the cheap resistive base boards with the basic Honeywell thermostats when we moved in years ago and no wood stove. One month that winter we had a $900 electric bill.
We replaced them with a combination of Fahrenheat and Cadet Softheat hydronic base board heaters along with a woodstove.
What really made the difference is 7 day programmable thermostats. Once they were dialed in, the house is always comfortable and very economical considering it’s base board heating.
The heaters run only when you want and our unused upstairs rooms only heat if the temp drops to 50 and you can set that lower if you want. Upstairs bathroom heat only runs two hours in the morning and two hours in the evening.
From Dec 2012 to the billing cycle that ended yesterday avg annual monthly cost was $218.91 for the same size (2600 sf) house. This is an alternative to heat pump or mini-split systems, but relies on the wood stove to supplement heating.
Here are the thermostats:
http://www.supplyhouse.com/Honeywell...FRBXDQod6doHhg
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January 26th, 2017, 09:01 PM #22Super Member
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Re: electric heat problems?
If you don't currently have ducting, getting a heat pump is going to cost you a pretty penny, depending on you easily ducting can be put in. I would only go down that route if you are interested in having central air conditioning as well.
Since you don't have natural gas, I would probably look into a boiler, if you don't want air conditioning. It's considerably easier to install pipes in a house, than ducting.
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January 26th, 2017, 09:44 PM #23Grand Member
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I think the OP needs to talk with this man
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January 26th, 2017, 10:24 PM #24Grand Member
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Re: electric heat problems?
The outside boiler is a popular item around here in the boondocks.
Cheap to burn logs and when you burn outside, the dirt and ashes and soot all stay outside.
Domestic hot water is included, so that's a savings.
Chimney is about 4 feet tall, so cleaning is easy and safe.
You can get a coal compatible boiler also.
Down side: you are tied to feeding the thing all winter long. Want a vacation? better get a neighbor to stoke it - you DON'T want your pipes to freeze.American by BIRTH, Infidel by CHOICE
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January 26th, 2017, 11:43 PM #25
Re: electric heat problems?
except until 2015 they were often glorified metal boxes that were often stuffed with garbage and unseasoned wood "because it burns longer" Edit: i've also heard the odd story of people throwing dead deer and kerosene soaked materials in there.
so they've been banned all over and got bad rep.
the new efficent and gassification models are where it's at. however, my basement is a little dusty mostly from cutting wood down there and hardly from my coal furnace. the floor often needs swept. i frequently spill coal, sweep and throw in hopper.There is no way to make it out alive...
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Mitsubishi Hyper Heat.
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January 27th, 2017, 07:12 AM #27Super Member
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January 27th, 2017, 09:11 AM #28
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It was, but let's talk about it some more. It's simply a heat pump with a different kind of motor driving the compressor, the pair of which is powered with an inverter, something similar to a variable frequency drive (VFD). The combination allows the compressor to spin up to about 120 hertz, or about twice the speed of a motor on a standard 60 hertz electrical service. More compression = more resistance = more friction heat and slightly more heat from the actual heat pump cycle. The net result is a heat pump that doesn't need a backup strip heater, nothing more.
They do work well for heat, and they provide some of the most efficient cooling too. The downside is they are expensive. Did I mention they are expensive? All major ductless companies (all Asian too) offer an inverter driven system of some kind, mostly to meet increasing AHRI efficiency standards.Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
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January 27th, 2017, 09:19 AM #29
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January 27th, 2017, 11:25 AM #30
Re: electric heat problems?
Ty.
With these 120hz systems. How much efficency is lost when its 10F or -15F?
The less outdoor heat, the more thwy struggle. Is it still of benefit then? I'd still want an aux like wood.
Not to mention, the greater temp difference betwwen in and out, the greater the loss, substantially. Many more btu required.There is no way to make it out alive...
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