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May 18th, 2015, 04:33 PM #1Junior Member
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Hi now guy here
Hello it's my first time here just signed up. If I'm going to a store that says no guns allowed how much of a crime if at all is it if I walk in with a gun?
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May 18th, 2015, 04:36 PM #2Active Member
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Re: Hi now guy here
Your answer can be found here http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=7582
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May 18th, 2015, 08:00 PM #3Member
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Re: Hi now guy here
If you are referring to the Mall at Steamtown, IIRC some on here have said it is some sort of federal building and thus off-limits to firearms.
Otherwise, stickers/signs do not have the force of law in PA. Just remember to be polite and leave the premises if you are asked, otherwise you risk a trespassing charge.
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May 18th, 2015, 08:40 PM #4
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May 18th, 2015, 08:47 PM #5
Re: Hi now guy here
Why would you patron a store that doesn't want your business?
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May 18th, 2015, 09:12 PM #6
Re: Hi now guy here
Welcome "now" guy!!
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May 18th, 2015, 09:25 PM #7Grand Member
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May 18th, 2015, 09:27 PM #8
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May 18th, 2015, 09:37 PM #9
Re: Hi now guy here
Beyond places like schools, federal buildings, courthouses, airside terminals, PA does not have any legislation specific to firearms banned in on private property (retail).
However PA trespassing laws are in effect because you have been put on notice that you cannot enter with a firearm.
(b) Defiant trespasser.--
(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place as to which notice against trespass is given by:
(i) actual communication to the actor;
(ii) posting in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders;
(iii) fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders;
(iv) notices posted in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the person's attention at each entrance of school grounds that visitors are prohibited without authorization from a designated school, center or program official; or
(v) an actual communication to the actor to leave school grounds as communicated by a school, center or program official, employee or agent or a law enforcement officer.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (1)(v), an offense under this subsection constitutes a misdemeanor of the third degree if the offender defies an order to leave personally communicated to him by the owner of the premises or other authorized person. An offense under paragraph (1)(v) constitutes a misdemeanor of the first degree. Otherwise it is a summary offense.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...tn=3&subsctn=0
If you do decide to carry past a sign and are discovered you should leave when told or your going to land yourself in more trouble."No, it's just a machine. I'm the weapon." - Jack Harper in Oblivion
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July 8th, 2015, 02:53 PM #10
Re: Hi now guy here
The Mall at Steam Town is private property,. however,
step outside the food atrium and you are on Federal Property.. the open air walkway, I have been told belongs to Steam Town National Historic Site, and as of 2010 you can carry on National lands, just not in the buildings which are clearly posted.Retired US Army
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