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April 14th, 2010, 03:52 AM #1
Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
Smith and Wesson came out with a wilderness survival kit centered around their snubby x-framed revolvers a few years back. Of course this kit was intended to thwart a bear attack more than anything. More recently they've put together an urban-themed kit, termed "disaster kit," which is centered around their Sigma series pistol.
Turth be told, I'm not interested in either of those guns as my kit's centerpiece as I'd like to make a more utilitarian kit which would comfortable in the trunk, closet, or lashed to the frame of my backpack.
What I've been thinking lately is Glock to fit the bill, but I'm undecided on caliber or length. However, I'm not limiting myself to them. I'd like to know what other people think.
What gun would you use for a dual-purpose kit (urban/wilderness survival) and why?
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Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
I have been a practicing survivalist since the late 80's and i can tell you that there is no urban/ wilderness survival pistol, in an urban situation you will need to survive against other humans and lots of them , which means you will need a high cap 9 mm, such as a Glock 19 or 17, i also would recommend the Ruger P89.
In the wilderness you will need to survive against other humans, wild animals and to feed yourself, you will need more than one gun, you will need a .357,44mag or 45 colt for defense, then you will need a .22lr to feed yourself.
This just to begin, ideally you should have a rifle, preferebly a Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 or a nice Bolt .22.
keep it light and simple , no exotic calibers like .357 sig, .38 super or even .40. Carry what everybody and the police and military carry- 9mm, you will always get a reload, but ideally you should always stockpile ammo. you can get 9mm ammo anywhere you go in the world
Again with the rifles carry what everybody else carry, .22lr, .223/5.56, .308, 7.62x39 , 30-30, 30-06, no exotic rounds like 7mm-08, 6.8 spc, 5.7 fn, .204 ruger etc.
Mike
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April 14th, 2010, 09:11 AM #3
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April 14th, 2010, 09:14 AM #4
Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
My SHTF guns are all chambered in NATO rounds
9mm pistol
.223 AR
.308 Bolt with a heavy barrelHonesta Mors Turpi Vita Potior ~ 3%
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April 14th, 2010, 09:28 AM #5
Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
Glock is a good platform for a survival kit.
You don't really need to worry about rain, mud, ect. . .
As for caliber, I'd go with what YOU can shoot.
I choose .40.
You can't really go for a round that "everyone uses".
Cause everyone does not use "one" round.
Police departments use 9mm, .40, .45.
State Police use .45 GAP.
Ect. . .
So I would find a round that your good with, and STOCK it up. I find it to be a VERY bad idea to rely on others in a survival situation to have your ammo for you.
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April 14th, 2010, 09:56 AM #6
Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
urban/wilderness survival I'd go with a .357 6" barrel. You can hunt with it, you can scare a bear with it, you can reasonably carry it (I wouldn't conceal carry it, but you "could"), and you can shoot someone with it.
If you are talking survival, that's what I'd go with for a pistol or even single gun. After that a .22lr rifle for a pure survival gun. List grows from there along the lines that other people have said.
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April 14th, 2010, 11:17 AM #7
Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
Personally I think a 1911 .45 acp as a side arm with lots of magazines and a 12 ga with a spectrum of shot shells, from low brass #8 shot for food to 3" mag buck and ball for personal defense to slugs for big game when available. People will argue about the capacity to carry more ammo in other calibers but aim is not as critical with a shot gun. And low brass will do just fine on a zombie at close range. And there is a lot of 12 ga ammo around
Derrion Albert was my Hero.
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April 14th, 2010, 02:18 PM #8
Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
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April 14th, 2010, 02:15 PM #9
Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
Very good answer - a lot of thought went into your response, but I'm trying to find one pistol that could possibly be a compromise of both wilderness and urban due to portability concerns. This is going to be an emergency kit which may have to take the place of my regular components (a variety of rifles and pistols) just in case I can't also take those with me.
If you had to constrain the size of your kit to the size of what airlines would allow as carryon luggage, then what would you throw in it?
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April 14th, 2010, 02:53 PM #10Hokkmike Guest
Re: Which pistol for urban/wilderness survival kit?
One weapon would do it all. A high capcity, short barreled (in this situation legality of length would not be relevant) 12 gauge shotgun. Not pretty, not delicate, not surgical - but HUGELY effective!!!
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