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    Default What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    If a pawn store allows you to test fire a gun and the firearm was irreparable damaged or destroyed on first usage, for whatever major flaw there was. Would they require you to buy it? Is it possible to leave without paying for it guilt free?

    *Purely hypothetical, as of now*

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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Epii View Post
    If a pawn store allows you to test fire a gun and the firearm was irreparable damaged or destroyed on first usage, for whatever major flaw there was. Would they require you to buy it? Is it possible to leave without paying for it guilt free?

    *Purely hypothetical, as of now*
    If, after inspecting the firearm you were still unsure as to its safety, be more concerned about losing a hand or eye then liability for the firearm. Have them fire it.
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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Its not 100% when you check out a firearm for the range but experience in knowing what to look for including reviews on youtube as to ascertain probabilities of firearm failure or injury associated with firearm !

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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    What if pawn shops in PA weren't allowed to pawn guns, but had to obtain an FFL like any other business if they wished to buy and sell (but NOT accept them as collateral)?

    § 6115. Loans on, or lending or giving firearms prohibited.
    (a) Offense defined.--No person shall make any loan secured
    by mortgage, deposit or pledge of a firearm, nor, except as
    provided in subsection (b), shall any person lend or give a
    firearm to another or otherwise deliver a firearm contrary to
    the provisions of this subchapter.
    (b) Exception.--
    (1) Subsection (a) shall not apply if any of the
    following apply:
    (i) The person who receives the firearm is licensed
    to carry a firearm under section 6109 (relating to
    licenses).
    (ii) The person who receives the firearm is exempt
    from licensing.
    (iii) The person who receives the firearm is engaged
    in a hunter safety program certified by the Pennsylvania
    Game Commission or a firearm training program or
    competition sanctioned or approved by the National Rifle
    Association.
    (iv) The person who receives the firearm meets all
    of the following:
    (A) Is under 18 years of age.
    (B) Pursuant to section 6110.1 (relating to
    possession of firearm by minor) is under the
    supervision, guidance and instruction of a
    responsible individual who:
    (I) is 21 years of age or older; and
    (II) is not prohibited from owning or
    possessing a firearm under section 6105 (relating
    to persons not to possess, use, manufacture,
    control, sell or transfer firearms).
    (v) The person who receives the firearm is lawfully
    hunting or trapping and is in compliance with the
    provisions of Title 34 (relating to game).
    (vi) A bank or other chartered lending institution
    is able to adequately secure firearms in its possession.
    (2) Nothing in this section shall be construed to
    prohibit the transfer of a firearm under 20 Pa.C.S. Ch. 21
    (relating to intestate succession) or by bequest if the
    individual receiving the firearm is not precluded from owning
    or possessing a firearm under section 6105.
    (3) Nothing in this section shall be construed to
    prohibit the loaning or giving of a firearm to another in
    one's dwelling or place of business if the firearm is
    retained within the dwelling or place of business.
    (4) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the
    relinquishment of firearms to a third party in accordance
    with 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third
    party for safekeeping).
    (June 13, 1995, 1st Sp.Sess., P.L.1024, No.17, eff. 120 days;
    Nov. 10, 2005, P.L.335, No.66, eff. 180 days)

    2005 Amendment. Act 66 added subsec. (b)(4).
    Cross References. Section 6115 is referred to in section
    6108.3 of Title 23 (Domestic Relations).
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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    What if pawn shops in PA weren't allowed to pawn guns, but had to obtain an FFL like any other business if they wished to buy and sell (but NOT accept them as collateral)?
    I had occasion to look into this, and I can see at least 2 possible ways for a pawn shop to legally pawn guns; not sure how our typically anti-gun courts would view it, but they're in the statute you cited.
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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I had occasion to look into this, and I can see at least 2 possible ways for a pawn shop to legally pawn guns; not sure how our typically anti-gun courts would view it, but they're in the statute you cited.
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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I had occasion to look into this, and I can see at least 2 possible ways for a pawn shop to legally pawn guns; not sure how our typically anti-gun courts would view it, but they're in the statute you cited.
    I always thought any pawnshop that pawned guns had to be a 02 FFL.
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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I had occasion to look into this, and I can see at least 2 possible ways for a pawn shop to legally pawn guns; not sure how our typically anti-gun courts would view it, but they're in the statute you cited.
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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Epii View Post
    If a pawn store allows you to test fire a gun and the firearm was irreparable damaged or destroyed on first usage, for whatever major flaw there was. Would they require you to buy it? Is it possible to leave without paying for it guilt free?

    *Purely hypothetical, as of now*
    If you are using the gun on their range with their ammo, and you have a catastrophic failure, it is not your responsibility. If indeed this happens they should be happy you do not sue them for damages.
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    Default Re: What if a pawn shop allows you to test fire a firearm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Epii View Post

    Would they require you to buy it? Is it possible to leave without paying for it guilt free?

    *Purely hypothetical, as of now*
    You should probably talk to a lawyer about this.
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