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    Default Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    Just received a reference request from Sheriff Todd Martin. The request came in a properly sealed envelope (good), but it did not come with a postage-paid return envelope (bad).

    While this is not big deal for me ( I will respond for my friend); I believe there is a big problem in putting the burden of an envelope and postage on the taxpayer. Is it just me?

    Also, I can foresee where a person will not go the extra mile to respond and someone loses a reference causing unnecessary delay, or even denial of a license.

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    Who is applying for an LTCF? If it's you, then filling in names and addresses on the LTCF application was all that was required. Anything additional would be in violation of the law.

    If it's not you, but someone else, then the sheriff is violating the law by divulging to a third part that someone is applying for an LTCF.

    It is a big problem, and not for the reason you cited.

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    Not for me; and the issues you raised are currently being addressed in a lawsuit here. Just raising a new issue because his current practice is suppose to be the remedy for his prior transgressions.

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    He's already being sued for requiring references, etc., (minus the lack of return postage).

    If you want him gone start a campaign to oust him in the next election. You guys have the power, you just have to get the community to get rid of him.

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    I didn't move to monroe solely based on the complaints about sheriff fuckface

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    I don't know....when I get my water bill from our (Bucks County) township, there isn't even an envelop, let alone one with a stamp on it.

    Speaking of county sheriffs...ours does not send the 60-day notification on expiring LTCFs. That was just settled in court as part of another matter in another county. Seems sheriffs are excused from complying via some thing in another law that I didn't follow. Anyway, nothing can be done about a sheriff pocketing the $1.50 set aside for 60-day notices.

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    Who is applying for an LTCF? If it's you, then filling in names and addresses on the LTCF application was all that was required. Anything additional would be in violation of the law.

    If it's not you, but someone else, then the sheriff is violating the law by divulging to a third part that someone is applying for an LTCF.

    It is a big problem, and not for the reason you cited.
    Reference have been required in Sullivan County also. But we have a new Sheriff so we shall see next time around....

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    I was gunna apply for one but idk know anyone in this county and now it seems like getting one is not gunna happen. This sucks. Has anyone tried to put references that reside outside of the county? And has it worked?

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    Quote Originally Posted by Vet10 View Post
    I was gunna apply for one but idk know anyone in this county and now it seems like getting one is not gunna happen. This sucks. Has anyone tried to put references that reside outside of the county? And has it worked?
    i specifically used a reference from NJ and one from NY.
    I did so by coming in with my LTCF and relevant legal code. i submitted my application and when they tried to hand it back, i pointed out the relevant legal bits and they took it with a "well, we'll see what happens" even tried to play it off like they weren't sure how to process the ltcf.
    however, i did not argue the berkheimer crap and submitted a blank berkheimer form with my name/address on it. i can't fight every battle. funny how they rely on a paper from a private corporation charged with collecting taxes, one with a long history of problems.

    i have been permitted, since the age of 18, to purchase rifles in NJ and they had absolutely no legal reason to deny me in PA when i moved here.
    go in looking sharp and keep a professional (lackof)attitude.
    There is no way to make it out alive...

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    Default Re: Monroe County Sheriff Needs to Go

    Quote Originally Posted by MachineGunKelly View Post
    While this is not big deal for me ( I will respond for my friend); I believe there is a big problem in putting the burden of an envelope and postage on the taxpayer. Is it just me?
    Um....if the sheriff were to send you an envelop with a stamp on it, where do you suppose he is going to get the money to pay for that?

    Why yes, the taxpayers!

    I'd rather it come from the particular taxpayer who is seeking a government service, rather than the taxpayers at large.

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