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    Default MontCo...Must show cause??

    Taking my wife to get her ltcf in a week or two and noticed some changes to the sherrifs page. Am I missing something or is Sherrif Behr of Montgomery Co confused?



    Gun Permits
    Pennsylvania License to Carry a Concealed Firearm
    This section issues a "license to carry firearm" to those residents of Montgomery County who are 21 years of age or older and show cause to carry a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    Check the Self Defense box and not any of the other reasons. Some say that your permit can be denied because you don't absolutely need a LTCF for any of the other reasons listed.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    Quote Originally Posted by .45Kimber1911 View Post
    Check the Self Defense box and not any of the other reasons. Some say that your permit can be denied because you don't absolutely need a LTCF for any of the other reasons listed.
    The form is old, a reason is no longer required. If a reason, or lack of one, forms the basis for a denial, that denial would
    be outside the ststates and the sheriff's authority.

    Regardless of what "some say".
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    Make sure that your wife gets there as soon as they open and that she sets aside at least 1.5 hours to wait for it. I went past there today and it was 14 people deep at 10 AM.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    Nothing to worry about.

    It is the current form.
    Used statewide, every county.

    Show cause = Check one box.

    I chose self defense as my reason. It does not matter in PA, but some have speculated that it might be problematic if you are using it in a reciprocity state and it says "target shooting".

    "Employment" is not a good one to check off. Then I think you need documentation from your employer.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    I filled my application at the counter, I asked if I should check multiple reasons they said they only one and only Self Defense.

    Works for me.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    Quote Originally Posted by PA_PB&J View Post
    I filled my application at the counter, I asked if I should check multiple reasons they said they only one and only Self Defense.

    Works for me.
    So nice of them to advise you of the information that you received. Some sheriff depatments will say nothing, and watch you check the wrong box by your choice. When your application is reviewed weeks later, it will be denied. I had hunter friends that checked the hunting box. They were denied the carry permit and advised to apply for a provisional permit.

    I waste no time telling first time applicants to check self defense and certainly not the "for hunting" choice.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    Quote Originally Posted by c45man View Post
    I had hunter friends that checked the hunting box. They were denied the carry permit and advised to apply for a provisional permit.
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    Checking the "wrong" box is NOT a legal reason to deny someone a LTCF.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    I have heard of people checking more than one, i.e. Self Defense and Target Shooting. The LTCF said Self Defense.

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    Default Re: MontCo...Must show cause??

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Checking the "wrong" box is NOT a legal reason to deny someone a LTCF.

    When I submitted my app I had every single box checked, partly because I wanted to carry for every single reason I could think of. Deputy Dawg at the counter must have liked my reasoning, he just shrugged and took it. When I got the license 10 minutes later it said PROTECTION. There is only room on the license for one reason.

    I also left all the employment/employer section blank. Yes, I'm typing this now from federal-I-filled-out-the-form-wrong prison.

    It helps to read and know the statutes. Otherwise you're likely to believe anything 'they' tell you.
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

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