Legal stuff

[buster2209]

I have been living in PA for about 3 months now and will receive my green card soon.

Can someone tell me when/if I am able to purchase a firearm and obtain a CCL licence and how to go about doing this?

I am ex-army (British) so I am already very familiar with firearms and ROA (rules of engagements) so I don't want a CCL for dumb stuff, just personal protection.

Thanks in advance

[Pa. Patriot]

You will need state issued ID (driv lic) , your green card, and you will need 90 days of utility bills, an/or bank statements, and/or paystubs that support your having been a resident for those 90 days.

Other than that the PICS check takes a couple more minutes than a natural born citizen because the system requires an operator do the check manually (as opposed to the automated check)

[buster2209]

You will need state issued ID (driv lic) , your green card, and you will need 90 days of utility bills, an/or bank statements, and/or paystubs that support your having been a resident for those 90 days.

Other than that the PICS check takes a couple more minutes than a natural born citizen because the system requires an operator do the check manually (as opposed to the automated check)

Is this just for the purchase of firearms?

What about a CCL?

[mrjam2jab]

You will need state issued ID (driv lic) , your green card, and you will need 90 days of utility bills, an/or bank statements, and/or paystubs that support your having been a resident for those 90 days.

Other than that the PICS check takes a couple more minutes than a natural born citizen because the system requires an operator do the check manually (as opposed to the automated check)

Is that due to the foreign born situation?

[Pa. Patriot]

Is this just for the purchase of firearms?

What about a CCL?

The residency paperwork is required by Fed law for sales executed on an ATF form 4473 (at a dealer).

I do not believe the residency material is required by law (18Pa.C.S.6109) for LTCF.

[buster2209]

Is that due to the foreign born situation?

Yes, it's hard for us immigrants!! lol

[buster2209]

The residency paperwork is required by Fed law for sales executed on an ATF form 4473 (at a dealer).

I do not believe the residency material is required by law (18Pa.C.S.6109) for LTCF.

LTCF (License to Carry Firearms) is the PA form of CCL??

What does ATF stand for?

All your guns registered on a database somewhere?

[d90king]

LTCF (License to Carry Firearms) is the PA form of CCL??

What does ATF stand for?

All your guns registered on a database somewhere?

A. Yes it also allows you to carry concealed plus some additional benefits...

B. ATF = Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives...

[buster2209]

A. Yes it also allows you to carry concealed plus some additional benefits...

B. ATF = Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives...

Could you elaborate on that?

[Pa. Patriot]

All your guns registered on a database somewhere?

No registration in Pa.
ref: (18Pa.C.S.6111.4)
See also:
http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/414...nsfers-pa.html

Could you elaborate on that?

Sure:

LTCF is valid state issued ID.
Whether folks will accept it as such is another matter.

An LTCF allows you to
1) CC outside your abode or fixed place of biz (IE: public) Statewide minus the prohibited places. (Ref: 18Pa.C.S.§6106)
2) carry a firearm (OC or CC) during a Pa. declared state of emergency. (Ref: 18Pa.C.S.§6107)
3) Carry OC or CC in a vehicle (Ref: 18Pa.C.S.§6106)
4) Carry OC on public streets of Philadelphia. (Ref: 18Pa.C.S.§6108)
5) Allows a person to loan you a handgun (Ref: 18Pa.C.S.§6115)
6) Exempts you from the prohibition of carrying in State Parks (CC only though)
7) Exempts one from the fed gun free school zone act provided the school is in the same state as the license holder.

See also the threads "stickied" at the top of the concealed/open carry section:
http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...carry-you.html
and
http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...nsylvania.html