Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
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Originally Posted by
Calzonewdippingsauce
"You must read some rep around before giving it to jthrelf again."
Seriously the fact that there are even people debating these things is ridiculous when we should really be debating the best way to go about ending BATF altogether.
Fuckin A. Unelected bureaucrats have no business "interpreting" laws.
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
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Originally Posted by
KJP442
Fuckin A. Unelected bureaucrats have no business "interpreting" laws.
It's called the "administrative state". It's doing exactly what it is intended to do, control the citizens by using bureaucratic administration with the elected officials hiding behind rules and regulation designed to confuse and hamper freedom. Then they appoint Judges to uphold words that were never written.
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
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Originally Posted by
jthrelf
The merit to a textual interpretation is there. But if you take a few steps back - why the hell are we so concerned over these meaningless design features?
You'll find no argument there from me. I am only pointing out that you can't have your cake and eat it. If you want pistols with braces, then the ATF is going to make sure that "braces" are signifcantly different than "stocks". The minute a stupid manufacturer tries to make both out of the same molds, well here you go. SB and Q should have known better.
As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that makes any sense at all with regards to this issue is to split semi automatic firearms into two groups: "concealable" and "non-concealable", with the likely determining factor being the longest dimension of the firearm.
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
So under this would a 8.5" 300blk with SB PDW brace be illegal? Asking for a friend?
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
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Originally Posted by
Royinmontco
You'll find no argument there from me. I am only pointing out that you can't have your cake and eat it. If you want pistols with braces, then the ATF is going to make sure that "braces" are signifcantly different than "stocks". The minute a stupid manufacturer tries to make both out of the same molds, well here you go. SB and Q should have known better.
As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that makes any sense at all with regards to this issue is to split semi automatic firearms into two groups: "concealable" and "non-concealable", with the likely determining factor being the longest dimension of the firearm.
I do see what you meant. Since there is shitty legislation (the NFA) on the books and it would take an act of Congress to change that, then I do 'appreciate' (please sir may I have some more :rolleyes:) the distinction between large format pistols and SBRs.
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJEHb5H37Do
Pistol Brace Creator & SB Tactical Owner discuss with Colion Noir ATF Ruling on Honey Badger Pistol
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol
I'd like to see the law bestowing ATF with the power to enact laws and the power to enforce them?
Re: ATF Issues Cease & Desist for Honey Badger Pistol