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Democrats Moving on ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban..targets at Least 45 Specific AR-15 Rifles
The House Judiciary Committee will be moving on an “assault weapons” ban bill that targets at least 45 specific AR-15 rifles and approximately 30 specific AK-47s.
The legislation Rep. David Cicilline’s (D-R.I.) assault weapons bill, H.R. 1808.
Cicilline’s bill would ban the manufacture and sale of at least 45 specific AR-15 rifles , including, “Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Chiappa Firearms MFour rifles, Colt Match Target rifles, CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 rifles, Daniel Defense M4A1 rifles, Devil Dog Arms 15 Series rifles,” as well as the Diamondback DB15 rifles.
The bill would also ban the manufacture and sale of all AR-pistols, and specifically naming thirteen that are specifically listed: “American Spirit AR–15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, Chiappa Firearms M4 Pistol GEN II, CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 Roscoe pistol, Daniel Defense MK18 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR–15 pistol, Jesse James Nomad AR–15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol, Osprey Armament MK–18 pistol, POF USA AR pistols, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol,” and the “Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 pistol.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-ar-15-rifles/
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Unlikely that it passes in the senate, but if it does each manufacturer should simply modify a minor component and re-name their products.
Pharmaceutical companies pull that crap all the time to renew patent protections, and nobody in govt bats an eye
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they are going to be going hard for this while they have power. as a side note there should be no exemption for police or retired police when they write these bills. as of right now there are no republican co-sponsors
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akley88
. as of right now there are no republican co-sponsors
Ahh, so it is bi-partisan :rolleyes:
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This will be a good way to get the USSC to settle on the Strict Scrutiny test for new gun control regs. Which almost nothing passes. Hard to prove that banning a rifle for 350 million Americans is "narrowly" targeted at the handful of loonies who shoot up schools.
Fewer people are killed with AR-15 variants than drown in tubs, I bet.
Imagine if the Right banned abortions because a handful of women had a dozen abortions each, using abortion as their sole form of birth control. Or if Congress banned all cars because they killed 40,000 Americans every year, and everyone should use public transportation instead.
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Feels like they're pandering to their base, completely unaware that a good deal of their base has changed their stance on guns.
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akley88
they are going to be going hard for this while they have power. as a side note there should be no exemption for police or retired police when they write these bills. as of right now there are no republican co-sponsors
You never see that do you? I wonder if there's a slight possibility that the reason is so the politicians and wealthy can hire those people for private security...
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esh21167
You never see that do you? I wonder if there's a slight possibility that the reason is so the politicians and wealthy can hire those people for private security...
that and it gets the police to say that the bills would help public safety.
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If they want to sue the ammo mfg? Why not sue judges letting bailed out criminals knowing they will continue attacking people?
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JaySmith
Feels like they're pandering to their base, completely unaware that a good deal of their base has changed their stance on guns.
They are completely unaware that good deal of their base (minorities) are outright changing party affiliation.
Or they ARE aware of both phenomenons and simply don’t care because they have the infrastructure in place, with proven success, to create election results that are beneficial to them
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JaySmith
Feels like they're pandering to their base, completely unaware that a good deal of their base has changed their stance on guns.
A looootttt of gun owners don't believe that we need anything that holds 30 rounds.
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akley88
they are going to be going hard for this while they have power. as a side note there should be no exemption for police or retired police when they write these bills. as of right now there are no republican co-sponsors
Pat Toomey will be in on it before all is said and done.
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PickingPA
They are completely unaware that good deal of their base (minorities) are outright changing party affiliation.
Or they ARE aware of both phenomenons and simply don*t care because they have the infrastructure in place, with proven success, to create election results that are beneficial to them
People change party affiliations all the time and a year over year comparison would be necessary to determine if it's any different this year or last. Once the primaries are over, I can see no reason to switch parties, it has no effect in the general election.
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Walleye Hunter
People change party affiliations all the time and a year over year comparison would be necessary to determine if it's any different this year or last. Once the primaries are over, I can see no reason to switch parties, it has no effect in the general election.
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Media take notice as Hispanics ditch Democratic Party with ‘once in a generation’ political realignment
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One of the most notable points of data shows that Democrats are "statistically tied" with Republicans in congressional ballots when it comes to the Hispanic vote. The metric becomes more shocking when turning the page back to 2018, when the Democratic Party held a 47-point advantage with Hispanics in the midterms. Also notable is an April NBC News poll, which showed Democrats losing ground in every demographic, besides college-educated women, where they gained 10 points since 2010. *
https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-...al-realignment
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Of course Conor Lamb co sponsored it. What a fucking traitor. Guess I'm using my lunch break to type up a shitty email to that worthless empty suit. I know he's out of a job come next year but I'll never pass up an opportunity to remind him how much of a POS he is.
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KPShooting
Of course Conor Lamb co sponsored it. What a fucking traitor. Guess I'm using my lunch break to type up a shitty email to that worthless empty suit. I know he's out of a job come next year but I'll never pass up an opportunity to remind him how much of a POS he is.
Give 'em hell. I resist the urge to tell them what I really think and give them the soft version.
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Another big ball of fluff to pander to the base that will go absolutely nowhere. The House has become the knee-jerk hysterical clown show it always wanted to be while the Senate has become the constipated logjam in need of a colon blow that it always was intended to be.
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They got the "worse than Chipman" ATF director in recently with the usual help of uniparty assholes......don't put it past these Phuckers, they want 2.0.
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Walleye Hunter
A looootttt of gun owners don't believe that we need anything that holds 30 rounds.
This is part of the problem, I think that's more of the older generation and ones that are primarily hunters and not enthusiast shooters. They take their gun out once a year to sight in and use to shoot a deer in the winter.
My dad is one of these people, he didn't see a purpose for AR's and AK's and used to think they should be banned. At least that was his position but I think he's had fun shooting mine and using examples of the riots etc helped illustrate an actual purpose on why they exist for civilians to legally own. Now he's considering getting his LTCF again, he hasn't had one in probably 20 years after he sold off his two handguns and had no reason to renew. At the time both his pistols were revolvers and he's never owned an actual semi auto gun.
I guess that makes sense if you don't target shoot and only really use guns for hunting.
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Walleye Hunter
A looootttt of gun owners don't believe that we need anything that holds 30 rounds.
the fudds are always willing to support the left because you dont need 30 rounds for hunting deer, just dont touch my deer rifle. i cant stand these people cause they are always the ones that say i support the 2nd amendment but.
thats why i love hunting with my troy par. it looks like an ar but is pump and can accept 30 round mags but i dont load more then 5 to cut weight, plus its suppressed so the fudds lose their mind.
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JaySmith
Feels like they're pandering to their base, completely unaware that a good deal of their base has changed their stance on guns.
I will believe it when they vote a certain way or stop the gun drama from their reps..
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Well, it looks like the dems realize they are farked in the coming election so instead of incremental creep, they are just going to go the whole hog and ban everything.
As all commies do and know, they gotta get the guns to take over. It's a strong reminder what their end game is.
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bogey1
Don't abide.
pretty much
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wanneroo
Well, it looks like the dems realize they are farked in the coming election so instead of incremental creep, they are just going to go the whole hog and ban everything.
As all commies do and know, they gotta get the guns to take over. It's a strong reminder what their end game is.
It*s all OK because the GOP will immediately remove that law, the second they gain control. :rolleyes:
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I often wonder, in what way will the forum enforce the rule of "illegal content" or "activity" if things like this ever become "law"...
https://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=17555
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Same as above, but we don't think you did it knowingly and on purpose. However we still really need to drive home the point of how badly such behavior reflects on all firearm owners.
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Mr_Gixxer
I wonder if you're aware of how "Soldier of Fortune" was sued into death?
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akley88
the fudds are always willing to support the left because you dont need 30 rounds for hunting deer, just dont touch my deer rifle. i cant stand these people cause they are always the ones that say i support the 2nd amendment but.
thats why i love hunting with my troy par. it looks like an ar but is pump and can accept 30 round mags but i dont load more then 5 to cut weight, plus its suppressed so the fudds lose their mind.
I picked up a side-charging upper in .450 Bushmaster (straight-walled for those states that require it). Take out the gas tube and you've got a single-shot hunting rifle in an AR platform, with which I am familiar and comfortable. Just sayin'...
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By ballot or bullet they will be removed from office..................................
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Re: Democrats Moving on ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban..targets at Least 45 Specific AR-15 Rif
I guess it*s time to buy an AR-10
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Mine, well before the tragic boat accident, self identified as a AR14.5**
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GunLawyer001
This will be a good way to get the USSC to settle on the Strict Scrutiny test for new gun control regs. Which almost nothing passes. Hard to prove that banning a rifle for 350 million Americans is "narrowly" targeted at the handful of loonies who shoot up schools.
Fewer people are killed with AR-15 variants than drown in tubs, I bet.
Imagine if the Right banned abortions because a handful of women had a dozen abortions each, using abortion as their sole form of birth control. Or if Congress banned all cars because they killed 40,000 Americans every year, and everyone should use public transportation instead.
or banned medical care which is third leading cause of death in the US just behind heart disease and cancer.
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DennisH82
I guess it*s time to buy an AR-10 **
it's always time to buy an AR10 .... or build one.
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PocketProtector
They got the "worse than Chipman" ATF director in recently with the usual help of uniparty assholes......don't put it past these Phuckers, they want 2.0.
What? CW or AWB?
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FYI this is up for committee hearing/vote in two hours. FPC is saying they expect a floor vote next week. This doesn't look like it's just going to wither and die.
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KPShooting
FYI this is up for committee hearing/vote in two hours. FPC is saying they expect a floor vote next week. This doesn't look like it's just going to wither and die.
its going to make it through the house most likely
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Why is this on my my radar and worrying me. Because of these so called Republican Senators who don*t understand what *shall not be infringed* means.
Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
Roy Blunt of Missouri
Richard Burr of North Carolina
Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
Susan Collins of Maine
John Cornyn of Texas
Joni Ernst of Iowa
Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
Rob Portman of Ohio
Mitt Romney of Utah
Thom Tillis of North Carolina
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania
Todd Young of Indiana
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If you can stomach listening that that pants shitting POS Nadler you can watch the committee live here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0l4byDDpXs
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They believe we won't do shat....... probably correct