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Two is One and One is None
You'll hear that phrase a lot when you're among preppers. It's something to be taken seriously because if you only have one of something, if it breaks, now you no longer have it. So it's a good idea to have a backup. We take it to heart here, and we have a lot of redundancy build into our preps. Today, I took it a step further.
I now have a back up generator to our back up generator.
It was simply too good of a deal to pass up, 7550W with electric start. It does need a new battery, but it starts right up on the first pull.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/344/VPFKud.jpg
If you don't currently have a generator, it's a buyer's market, because all the formerly panicked grasshoppers are selling them because Covid is over.
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Good deal. I have my main generator that's 10k that powers the whole house. However if that ever has a problem, I have a 3500 that can power just the fridge and deep freeze to prevent food from spoiling, and provide some light in the house. I think I paid $150 for the little one on some sale. Parents and a friend have borrowed the little one on occasion to keep their fridges and freezers running in power loss when I was on my main generator. So it's also handy to have a good one, and one that you can loan out.
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PFFFTTT! Generator, schmenarator.
I have a garage full of plastic straws.
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streaker69
You'll hear that phrase a lot when you're among preppers. It's something to be taken seriously because if you only have one of something, if it breaks, now you no longer have it. So it's a good idea to have a backup. We take it to heart here, and we have a lot of redundancy build into our preps. Today, I took it a step further.
I now have a back up generator to our back up generator.
It was simply too good of a deal to pass up, 7550W with electric start. It does need a new battery, but it starts right up on the first pull.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/344/VPFKud.jpg
If you don't currently have a generator, it's a buyer's market, because all the formerly panicked grasshoppers are selling them because Covid is over.
Sweet! That's the same generator that I have. I also need a new battery, but I've never had a problem with it. Powers the whole house, minus the hot water heater and the baseboard heaters. If I shut everything else down, it will even run the hot water heater.
How'd you score that and what was the price, if I can be nosy?
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I have a back up girlfriend.
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I have a couple small generators.
I don't drink much beer but if the case of MGD runs out due to supply issues, I have a backup case of Blue Moon.
Like Streaker, I also have a back up to the backup. Yeungling.
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I haz 4 Toro Super Recyclers. :cool:
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streaker69
Your Magantrac? How do you like it?
Helped a neighbor 30-some years ago assemble his. Well, he helped some. Mostly watched. Got to play with it some after assembly, and my impression was it was too light in weight (too little mass) to do any serious earthmoving, but for a couple with a hobby greenhouse and landscaping business it would load pickups and small dumps just fine, and decent for clearing snow one bucket at a time. The backhoe was useless in shale or dense clay soil.
Noah
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Noah_Zark
Your Magantrac? How do you like it?
Helped a neighbor 30-some years ago assemble his. Well, he helped some. Mostly watched. Got to play with it some after assembly, and my impression was it was too light in weight (too little mass) to do any serious earthmoving, but for a couple with a hobby greenhouse and landscaping business it would load pickups and small dumps just fine, and decent for clearing snow one bucket at a time. The backhoe was useless in shale or dense clay soil.
Noah
No, the guy we bought it from, he built it. Pretty cool machine. Made loading it up far easier.
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Sandcut
Sweet! That's the same generator that I have. I also need a new battery, but I've never had a problem with it. Powers the whole house, minus the hot water heater and the baseboard heaters. If I shut everything else down, it will even run the hot water heater.
How'd you score that and what was the price, if I can be nosy?
Why would you need something to heat water that's already hot? ;) :D
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Sandcut
Sweet! That's the same generator that I have. I also need a new battery, but I've never had a problem with it. Powers the whole house, minus the hot water heater and the baseboard heaters. If I shut everything else down, it will even run the hot water heater.
How'd you score that and what was the price, if I can be nosy?
Found it on Craigslist for $300. It was too good to pass up for that price.
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streaker69
Found it on Craigslist for $300. It was too good to pass up for that price.
Damn, that's a steal. I've been looking loosely for a year or two, but with the geothermal heat pump its tough to find something capable of running it all. Probably need 15kw+, which means either a standby type or PTO driven, neither of which is super easy to come by or cheap.
Now that I have my woodstove in, I may settle for something that will handle everything but the HVAC system and call it a day. Not losing heat was half my focus, and that's settled more or less.
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Looks like an original Generac before they were sold to Briggs and Stratton. Looks like it has the Briggs Vanguard engine. I have the 5500 model from 1999. As far as "clean sine wave" is concerned I've looked into this and as long as the engine doesn't surge and can keep the output between 80vac-120vac high quality surge protectors are all you need.
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streaker69
Found it on Craigslist for $300. It was too good to pass up for that price.
Cripes! I paid around $800+ back when I bought it in '05-'06. Yours is in sweet shape!
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Sandcut
Cripes! I paid around $800+ back when I bought it in '05-'06. Yours is in sweet shape!
Yeah, it's in decent shape. You can see it's been left outside for a time. All the breaker reset buttons were a little sticky. I have a new battery being delivered soon, so I'll see how electric start works.
I was hoping to find a method of quieting it down by adding another muffler. Also might convert it to Tri-Fuel.
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streaker69
Yeah, it's in decent shape. You can see it's been left outside for a time. All the breaker reset buttons were a little sticky. I have a new battery being delivered soon, so I'll see how electric start works.
I was hoping to find a method of quieting it down by adding another muffler. Also might convert it to Tri-Fuel.
I have a 6500 that looks identical. I’ve had it for 20+ years and the battery has been dead for years but it starts on one or two pulls so I’ve never replaced it. I’ve never had a problem with it except the low oil sensor went out soon after I bought it so I just disconnected it.
You mentioned adding another muffler – that is my only complaint – it is LOUD!
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For anyone replacing a battery on one of these, you have to take the fuel tank off to do it. The battery is in a tray bolted to another tray under the tank. They didn't use captive bolts on the upper tray so you have to get a wrench on them from the top. You can't do that with the tank in place because there's some type of pad covering the bolt heads. I'm considering just tack welding the bolts to the upper tray to make them captive so I don't have to take the tank off again.
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streaker69
For anyone replacing a battery on one of these, you have to take the fuel tank off to do it. The battery is in a tray bolted to another tray under the tank. They didn't use captive bolts on the upper tray so you have to get a wrench on them from the top. You can't do that with the tank in place because there's some type of pad covering the bolt heads. I'm considering just tack welding the bolts to the upper tray to make them captive so I don't have to take the tank off again.
Isn't that what they use to slaughter cows? Odd thing to have in a piece of power equipment.
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Gman106
Isn't that what they use to slaughter cows? Odd thing to have in a piece of power equipment.
Captive bolts being ones that don't spin, an example would be a carriage bolt. I tried that with this already except the sheet metal is too soft and it just spun the carriage bolts in the hole.
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Gman106
Isn't that what they use to slaughter cows? Odd thing to have in a piece of power equipment.
slightly different
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol
it says pistol so it is clearly taktikoool vs a normal ol' captive bolt which really doesnt do much at all, almost like that is the point of it.
i guess the question really is.
is streaker keeping his bolts captive in an old well in the basement?
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Gman106
I have a back up girlfriend.
I thought about a backup wife but in that case two is four times as much trouble.
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New battery is installed as well as an Hour/Tachometer. Electric start works perfectly.
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Nice score. I've got the 6500 version of that, labeled as a Troy Bilt, sans electric start. I used to run the whole house on it (within reason), before I got the 17kw Generac whole house. It serves as backup to the Generac, if SHTF and something ever would happen to it. Starts super easy and always worked well.
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Will be moving. New place has solar and backup battery.
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Sooo, I have a foolish question,
How do you store fuel to run the Generator lets say for 7 days?
Gasoline is quite short lived these days and you may have to swap it out once a year or so to ensure yours is not gone foul,
I would love to pick up a small diesel Generator as I feel that fuel storage and availability is easier,
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pred
Sooo, I have a foolish question,
How do you store fuel to run the Generator lets say for 7 days?
Gasoline is quite short lived these days and you may have to swap it out once a year or so to ensure yours is not gone foul,
I would love to pick up a small diesel Generator as I feel that fuel storage and availability is easier,
My plan is to convert this one to LP/NG like my other one. LP stores forever.
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pred
Sooo, I have a foolish question,
How do you store fuel to run the Generator lets say for 7 days?
Gas will last ok for a year. After that the sta bil will make it last longer.
https://www.amazon.com/STA-BIL-22206...841503648&th=1
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pred
Sooo, I have a foolish question,
How do you store fuel to run the Generator lets say for 7 days?
Gasoline is quite short lived these days and you may have to swap it out once a year or so to ensure yours is not gone foul,
I would love to pick up a small diesel Generator as I feel that fuel storage and availability is easier,
I keep about 12 gal. (give or take) of gas on hand. I rotate it by using it in the lawn equipment and then replace it with fresh, so under normal use it doesn't sit around long. I have enough gas to run my generator for a couple of hours a day for a week. I don't feel good about only having that much on hand but for now it is what it is.
I really should have a propane generator, that's really the only way to go for long term fuel storage. In a real, extended SHTF situation, propane bottles are easier to steal than gas. A pair of bolt cutters and you can get into any hardware, grocery, quick mart, factory, warehouse, etc, propane storage cage. They all have to store it outside, enough said. Hell, my employer doesn't even lock up the cage. two guys could cut a hole in the fence and get 10 bottles of propane outside the fence in a few minutes.
Matter of fact, a vehicle converted to propane wouldn't be a bad idea either.
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Sticking with the "two is one, one is none" theme.
ARs are dirt cheap now. I just ordered a parts rifle. I don't have any need for another AR, and I'm not going to set it up for anything in particular, I bought it for parts and if I need to quickly, swap out the upper or lower. That's really the super nice thing about ARs, If I break a spring or firing pin, I can just swap the whole upper in a pinch or I can pull a part from another upper.
Anyone buy an extra rifle just for parts?
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ray h
Sticking with the "two is one, one is none" theme.
ARs are dirt cheap now. I just ordered a parts rifle. I don't have any need for another AR, and I'm not going to set it up for anything in particular, I bought it for parts and if I need to quickly, swap out the upper or lower. That's really the super nice thing about ARs, If I break a spring or firing pin, I can just swap the whole upper in a pinch or I can pull a part from another upper.
Anyone buy an extra rifle just for parts?
My extra rifles are for New York reloads. :cool:
Never bought a whole gun for a parts gun, but there's certainly nothing wrong with doing so.
I just happen to have enough "not a parts guns" that I don't need a parts gun.
I do have a few extra BCGs. The entire BCG is a little overkill - could likely just buy spare bolts, but the extra cost for an entire BCG isn't excessive, and allows for instant "swapabilty".
"What breaks on these things?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO9H3TjCq8M
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ray h
Sticking with the "two is one, one is none" theme.
ARs are dirt cheap now. I just ordered a parts rifle. I don't have any need for another AR, and I'm not going to set it up for anything in particular, I bought it for parts and if I need to quickly, swap out the upper or lower. That's really the super nice thing about ARs, If I break a spring or firing pin, I can just swap the whole upper in a pinch or I can pull a part from another upper.
Anyone buy an extra rifle just for parts?
I could do that, but I'd end up with an SBR.
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Emptymag
My extra rifles are for New York reloads. :cool:
Never bought a whole gun for a parts gun, but there's certainly nothing wrong with doing so.
I just happen to have enough "not a parts guns" that I don't need a parts gun.
I do have a few extra BCGs. The entire BCG is a little overkill - could likely just buy spare bolts, but the extra cost for an entire BCG isn't excessive, and allows for instant "swapabilty".
"What breaks on these things?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO9H3TjCq8M
Not much difference between an extra gun and a parts gun except I'm not setting this one up with any accessories. I've got extra guns that are set up and ready to use but this one will sit naked. I guess the only real difference between an extra gun and a parts gun is mind set. :)
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I have two generators. But they are only 2000 watt generators.
I can parallel them for 4000 watts if needed though.
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free
I have two generators. But they are only 2000 watt generators.
I can parallel them for 4000 watts if needed though.
How do you do that?
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ray h
How do you do that?
With a parallel cable.
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https://www.amazon.com/Honda-08E93-H...12958154&psc=1
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free
OK. My generator is not "parallel ready". I didn't even know that was a thing.
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How about a second transportation device (also known as automobile).
Should it be one prior to the late 70s to avoid electronic, computerized dependencies for some emergency situations? Valid concern or overkill?
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Marlin60
How about a second transportation device (also known as automobile).
Should it be one prior to the late 70s to avoid electronic, computerized dependencies for some emergency situations? Valid concern or overkill?
The.problem with 70s and early 80s vehicles is you can't find parts as easily any more. Sure, Advanced Auto may have parts for them, or they may have to order the parts, but you will have trouble scrounging for.them. On the other hand, newer 2000-2022 truck parts are everywhere. The sweet spot is probably a vehicle manufactured around 85-88, the last years of carburators but not so old you can't find parts on the streets.