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Biden to Announce EO Package on Gun Control on 08APR21
From Politico:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ns-guns-479704
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By ANITA KUMAR
04/07/2021 11:59 AM EDT
President Joe Biden is expected to unveil a long-awaited package of executive actions to curb gun violence Thursday at the White House, according to four people familiar with the plan.
The announcement comes nearly three months into Biden’s term in office, a delay that had frustrated activists who wanted the president to fulfill a campaign pledge to take action on gun violence on his first day in office. That frustration only grew after a slate of mass shootings in Colorado, Georgia and California.
Biden will direct the administration to begin the process of requiring buyers of so-called ghost guns — homemade or makeshift firearms that lack serial numbers — to undergo background checks, according to three people who have spoken to the White House about the plans. He is expected to be joined at the event by Attorney General Merrick Garland.
Other executive actions remain unclear. But stakeholders have speculated that the president could announce regulations on concealed assault-style firearms; prohibitions on firearm purchases for those convicted of domestic violence against their partners; and federal guidance on home storage safety measures.
More than 100 House Democrats wrote to Biden last week, urging him to take action on the concealed assault-style firearms, which is similar to the one used in the Colorado shooting in which 10 people were killed.
One other announcement Biden could make on Thursday is the introduction of his nominee to be the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, who will play a key role in any executive branch action on guns. His nominee could be tough to get through a Senate split 50-50 between Republicans and Democrats. The ATF has had mostly acting directors since the position became Senate-confirmed. Todd Jones was confirmed as ATF director in 2013 after a years-long stint as acting director.
In response to criticism from gun control advocacy groups that his administration has moved too slowly on executive actions, the Biden White House has responded that legislative fixes are a priority. Biden is likely to make the same point on Thursday, in addition to expressing support for bills to expand background checks and close the so-called Charleston loophole that allows a gun to be transferred from licensed gun dealers before a completed background check. He also is likely to push for legislation to keep guns away from people believed to be a danger to themselves or others, as well as a ban of assault weapons and high capacity magazines.
The White House declined to comment. But a senior administration official recently confirmed the White House was wrapping up their actions and could announce them in a series of stages.
Biden’s expected announcement comes as gun sales have skyrocketed amid a year of pandemic quarantines, a summer of racial unrest, and the president’s victory in the 2020 election, during which he promised an aggressive push to reduce gun violence. The year 2020 saw a record number of gun homicides in the United States.
“The administration has been working hard from Day One to pursue actions to reduce gun violence,” the senior administration official said recently. “We understand the urgency. No one understands the urgency more than the president and are looking forward to rolling out some of the initial actions we can take.”
The White House has held several meetings on gun violence with prominent groups pushing for gun restrictions, community-based groups, and survivors of gun violence. The meetings were led by Susan Rice, director of the Domestic Policy Council, and Cedric Richmond, director of the Office of Public Engagement.
Community-based groups cheered Biden’s decision to include $5 billion for community violence prevention programs in the $2 trillion infrastructure package he unveiled last week.
“With this investment of our federal tax dollars, we have an unprecedented opportunity to build an infrastructure of peace to heal and disrupt cycles of violence,” said a coalition of community groups dubbed Fund Peace that pushed for funding.
Biden has a lengthy history of dealing with gun legislation, though his most recent effort ended in notable failure. After the shooting in Newtown, Conn., President Barack Obama asked his then vice president to push through what he had hoped would be the biggest firearms restrictions since the Clinton administration. But after months of meetings and limited executive actions, a bill to require expanded background checks died on the Senate floor.
The Senate is even less Democratic now, split 50-50. Any bill would require at least 10 Republicans to vote with all Democrats, which is unlikely.
Igor Volsky, executive director of the advocacy group Guns Down America, said he hoped Biden would unveil a comprehensive plan that includes regulations, executive actions, funding and a strategy to get legislation through Congress.
“The president didn’t just run on executive actions when it comes to gun violence,” Volsky said. “He promised to put forward a robust comprehensive plan for reducing gun violence. Given the violence he inherited, we expect him to live up at the promise.”
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I don't see how anything he's proposing to do would hold up in court- but what's concerning about this is that, historically, legislative action that does hold up in court is often preceded by executive orders.
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If it's time to lose them in a boating accident, it's time to actually use them.
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So, buying a block of steel will be illegal? Hitler would be proud of these tyrants.
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Is GOA or any other group organizing some sort of protest action over this? We need to get back out there and show these wanna be tyrants we won't stand for this shit.
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Are free citizens subject to Imperial Decrees?
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Originally Posted by
win67
I don't see how anything he's proposing to do would hold up in court- but what's concerning about this is that, historically, legislative action that does hold up in court is often preceded by executive orders.
Yet George H Bush's importation ban on some 50 semi auto rifles and shotguns is still in effect today.
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"stakeholders have speculated that the president could announce regulations on concealed assault-style firearms"
So apparently that's what they're calling AR and AK pistols these days. I'm just curious if they're calling them that because of ignorance or they don't want to explain to their slow readers what a pistol brace is, or if Bidet is going to issue an executive order "banning" all pistols of a certain caliber, braced or unbraced. Guess we find out tomorrow...
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I have a package for him.
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Gun bans inbound tomorrow
https://youtu.be/C7S2ANFAk-U
What's everyone expecting? I'm guessing the big focus will be on the "Ghost Guns" and the possible import ban.
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He'll never be able to "ban" our guns.
Who is this Youtube kid?
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Lexington- Concord 2021. What would the founding fathers do?
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EO's hold zero weight. Except that the gestapo will enforce them anyway.
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President Sleepy joe is expected to unveil a long-awaited package of executive actions to curb gun violence Thursday at the White House, according to four people familiar with the plan.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ns-guns-479704
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alpacaheat
He'll never be able to "ban" our guns.
Who is this Youtube kid?
Not all of them but he can likely mess with imports and other bs. Not sure that guys a "kid", he's got 122k subscribers and pretty much announces all the latest news. A lot less annoying than the guns and gadgets guy too.
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Gun control is tyranny, it violates the constitution. Never surrender.
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Personally, I welcome bans and confiscation.
Something has to wake up this Country.
Overreach is all the Communists know.
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widgetman101
Not all of them but he can likely mess with imports and other bs. Not sure that guys a "kid", he's got 122k subscribers and pretty much announces all the latest news. A lot less annoying than the guns and gadgets guy too.
https://external-content.duckduckgo....jpg&f=1&nofb=1
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Originally Posted by
ShadeRabbit
"stakeholders have speculated that the president could announce regulations on concealed assault-style firearms"
So apparently that's what they're calling AR and AK pistols these days. I'm just curious if they're calling them that because of ignorance or they don't want to explain to their slow readers what a pistol brace is, or if Bidet is going to issue an executive order "banning" all pistols of a certain caliber, braced or unbraced. Guess we find out tomorrow...
They just have a hard on for AR's and AK's, last time I checked my Five Seven with a 30 round extended mag is still a hell of a lot easier to conceal than my AR pistol.
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Exactly what can they do, that they couldn't do before?
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What that idiot thinks he can do , what congress will let him do and what the law sez he can do are 5 different things.
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It*s a trial balloon to see how far they can go. If masks prove anything*.pretty far
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Originally Posted by
ShadeRabbit
"stakeholders have speculated that the president could announce regulations on concealed assault-style firearms"
So apparently that's what they're calling AR and AK pistols these days. I'm just curious if they're calling them that because of ignorance or they don't want to explain to their slow readers what a pistol brace is, or if Bidet is going to issue an executive order "banning" all pistols of a certain caliber, braced or unbraced. Guess we find out tomorrow...
Notice that gun owners aren't considered "stake holders." We're just the peons that have to abide by the royal decrees.
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widgetman101
They just have a hard on for AR's and AK's, last time I checked my Five Seven with a 30 round extended mag is still a hell of a lot easier to conceal than my AR pistol.
My 57s only holds 6!
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Originally Posted by
alpacaheat
He'll never be able to "ban" our guns.
Who is this Youtube kid?
Reno may is awesome. He is straight to the point most of the time. He talks a lot about california stuff and 3d printing as well. I prefer his videos to guns and gadgets as well even though i subscribe to both.
-Zach
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Re: Biden to Announce EO Package on Gun Control Tomorrow
To those gun owners that voted third party last election ; you really showed those gun banners out there.
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eagleclaw
To those gun owners that voted third party last election ; you really showed those gun banners out there.
Not this again...
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He's just going to sign a bunch of papers that he's instructed to sign, the MSM will fawn all over him and gush and make a huge stink, the lawsuits will begin working their way through the courts and life will go on as usual. Blah blah blah. We all knew this BS shitshow was coming; they can't really get anything done legislatively so they're just going to prop up the senile old man for some cameras and make it look like he's doing important "business of the people."
I really can't think of much he can do through EO that will not be immediately challenged and (hopefully) stays issued. I guess he can instruct ATF to be even more obtuse than they already are?
I'd feel better if half the Rs in the Senate and one turtle weren't giant trashbags full of self-aggrandizing shit.
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He could finagle some sort of economic sanctions against countries that import certain items.
Kind of like the whole Russian ban deal.
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abner13
Nice !!
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abner13
What that idiot thinks he can do , what congress will let him do and what the law sez he can do are 5 different things.
...none of which really matter if people let him get away with this shit, as they did with the election.
I'm really happy about seeing some cracks in the media coverage of Biden. They may have their political ideas, but at the end of the day they make their living by putting out engaging, relevant news stories about the President- and he's not really giving them anything to work with. No press conferences, practically no public statements of any substance. Jen Psaki never confirms or denies anything full-stop. Pretty much any news story that mentions Joe Biden is pure guessing, which can't be good for readership numbers- and the media is growing increasingly willing to say less-than-stellar things about Biden. Which doesn't mean we're out of the woods, not at all- but it's certainly good news!
The guy has the charisma of a concrete block, I was and still am amazed that THIS is the guy they picked to be the figurehead of the most powerful political party in the world.
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GOYABEAN
Curb gun violence by inciting 75 million gun owners into acts of....................................violence
start down this road and these fuckwits wont like where it leads them....
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Originally Posted by
win67
...none of which really matter if people let him get away with this shit, as they did with the election.
I'm really happy about seeing some cracks in the media coverage of Biden. They may have their political ideas, but at the end of the day they make their living by putting out engaging, relevant news stories about the President- and he's not really giving them anything to work with. No press conferences, practically no public statements of any substance. Jen Psaki never confirms or denies anything full-stop. Pretty much any news story that mentions Joe Biden is pure guessing, which can't be good for readership numbers- and the media is growing increasingly willing to say less-than-stellar things about Biden. Which doesn't mean we're out of the woods, not at all- but it's certainly good news!
The guy has the charisma of a concrete block, I was and still am amazed that THIS is the guy they picked to be the figurehead of the most powerful political party in the world.
None of which matters, because they're just killing time until he croaks and caramel hillary takes over.
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KPShooting
Is GOA or any other group organizing some sort of protest action over this? We need to get back out there and show these wanna be tyrants we won't stand for this shit.
Rock your 80s in Harrisburg
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ShadeRabbit
Not this again...
Seriously. Give me a reason to vote republican. Until then, I'll vote in support of the ideology that best supports my rights.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...iate-head-atf/
New crazy ATF head also being announced tomorrow. Should be a fun day tomorrow.
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ShadeRabbit
Not this again...
The truth hurts....
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I'm reading a lot of 'recommend' and 'direct the administration to begin' and 'advise' type language. I think he's got a handful o' nuthin', but the media and left will praise him for 'taking action' though no action is actually happening.
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Originally Posted by
widgetman101
They just have a hard on for AR's and AK's, last time I checked my Five Seven with a 30 round extended mag is still a hell of a lot easier to conceal than my AR pistol.
Sooooo... The ATF agent who is surely trolling this and other gun sites just added your and everyone else's Five Seven to the list, We all as a group must be mindful of what we broadcast as common sense to a senseless world