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Target in Chambersburg: OC butthole
Ok, which one of you was acting the ass in Target yesterday?
Open carrier with family goes into Target without masks, security kicks them out, the OCer starts screaming about the constitution mother fucker.
Meanwhile my nephew is delivering chicken sandwiches from a fast food joint down the street and wearing his red work shirt (with his restaurants logo). My nephew witnessed some of the incident and exits the store shortly after the OCer and family get evicted. He is walking across the parking lot to his vehicle while minding his own business. OCer sees him behind them, spins around on him yelling profanities and aggressively approaches my nephew while accusing him of following them and ranting about the constitution. My nephew, who had no part in any of this, except wearing a red shirt, was surprised and shaken by this madman idiot wearing a gun and running his mouth. My nephew just says "I don't work here and I agree with anything you say".
Ok, so who was it? Fess up.
Two things, why were you in Target, they have been anti 2A for some time now, secondly, I get the whole mask thing, I hate it too, but Target has no constitutional duty to you. It's a private company and they can set the dress code in their stores. Chill out and stop being an asshole before something bad happens that doesn't need to happen.
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They're starting to crack.
I don't blame em, these masks are bullshit! If you're old, sick, or scared wear the mask, but let the rest of us get sick and die.
I'm done with this mask. I'll take the risk.
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WoollyPullover
They're starting to crack.
I don't blame em, these masks are bullshit! If you're old, sick, or scared wear the mask, but let the rest of us get sick and die.
I'm done with this mask. I'll take the risk.
I agree 100% about masks, as do many people. There are other issues here.
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Looks to me like good ammo for the anti gun people. OC if that's your thing do it but when you act like an ass in public while OCing we all get painted with the same brush. I dont like the mask thing but do it when I enter a store. I dont critique anyone wearing a mask or not wearing a mask. Just like wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle...if you wear one great, if not great its your choice. If Target says you have to have one and you refuse to wear one shop else where. When I see a sign in a window that's anti gun I go else where. I spend my money where I choose. Had an insurance agent at State Farm post a sign 'No Weapons permitted' I did go in CC just to tell my agent he no longer has my policies on my vehicles, house, trailer and motorcycle. No need to lose my temper and yell at anyone. My new insurance company was very happy to take my money.
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Whoever this was needs to get their head gear flushed out. Idiots like this make everyone look bad! Target should have called the Police and had the fool arrested for criminal trespassing. Hearing this type of stuff is disgusting.
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I live a few blocks from that Target, I assume the guy delivering the chicken was from Chick-Fil-A just up the street. I wear a mask for now anyway, whether or not there is a sign stating that at the store entrance. I shop there occasionally. But I find it hard to breathe unless I put it under my nose sometimes. I suppose it defeats the purpose. Anyway, if the store says wear a mask, then do it, don’t make an ass out of yourself and give something more for the anti gun crowd to feed on, especially when open carrying.
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ray h
Meanwhile my nephew is delivering chicken sandwiches from a fast food joint down the street and wearing his red work shirt...............
Tell him to watch original Star Trek episodes and change his shirt color...................
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Waiting for the complimentary thread.
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Originally Posted by
ray h
Ok, which one of you was acting the ass in Target yesterday?
Open carrier with family goes into Target without masks, security kicks them out, the OCer starts screaming about the constitution mother fucker.
Meanwhile my nephew is delivering chicken sandwiches from a fast food joint down the street and wearing his red work shirt (with his restaurants logo). My nephew witnessed some of the incident and exits the store shortly after the OCer and family get evicted. He is walking across the parking lot to his vehicle while minding his own business. OCer sees him behind them, spins around on him yelling profanities and aggressively approaches my nephew while accusing him of following them and ranting about the constitution. My nephew, who had no part in any of this, except wearing a red shirt, was surprised and shaken by this madman idiot wearing a gun and running his mouth. My nephew just says "I don't work here and I agree with anything you say".
Ok, so who was it? Fess up.
Two things, why were you in Target, they have been anti 2A for some time now, secondly, I get the whole mask thing, I hate it too, but Target has no constitutional duty to you. It's a private company and they can set the dress code in their stores. Chill out and stop being an asshole before something bad happens that doesn't need to happen.
Look buddy if you’re going to post threads about open butt holes you better have pictures, I’m getting sick of click bait. :D
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Look buddy if you’re going to post threads about open butt holes you better have pictures, I’m getting sick of click bait. :D
Constitution Morher Fuckers
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Gunsnwater
Look buddy if you’re going to post threads about open butt holes you better have pictures, I’m getting sick of click bait. :D
The day you realize you do not want to ever see Gunsnwater’s internet history. :p
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The day you realize you do not want to ever see Gunsnwater’s internet history. :p
Yup
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Nobody ever thinks of the children.
What a bunch of selfish assholes.:o
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Honey came in and she caught me red-handed creeping with the girl next door...
(It wasn't me)
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2DogsBarking
Tell him to watch original Star Trek episodes and change his shirt color...................
Unless you are Lt. Leslie. He died in a season 2 episode "Obsession" but "came back" and was in a few episodes after that one!
Cool Trek knowledge aside, these types of incidents are becoming more frequent and protestors involved tend to make the "freedom" position look bad. We need to be on the lookout for stores that do not or will not have a mask requirement and support them, or accept "no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service."
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WoollyPullover
They're starting to crack.
I don't blame em, these masks are bullshit! If you're old, sick, or scared wear the mask, but let the rest of us get sick and die.
I'm done with this mask. I'll take the risk.
Well, if you are willing to OC, act this way and potentially escalate the situation to the point where someone is harmed over 60 square inches of cloth, you may yet get your wish.
Here lies WoolyPullover. Died angry at a bandana.
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KCJones
Honey came in and she caught me red-handed creeping with the girl next door...
(It wasn't me)
I nominate this post as thread winner.
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This is why we can’t have nice things...or why the nice things we have get taken away
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Originally Posted by
WoollyPullover
If you're old, sick, or scared wear the mask, but let the rest of us get sick and die.
I'm done with this mask. I'll take the risk.
Except that wearing a mask isn't as much about protecting you as it is about protecting everyone else (if you're infected but asymptomatic, you can still spread the virus just by breathing or coughing). Running around stores without a mask is the equivalent of driving drunk; yes, the person most likely to get hurt is you, but you're also likely to hurt many innocent people.
Also, my wearing a mask has nothing to do with fear, any more than my carrying a gun is driven by fear.
And before the "Wolf suckup" comments start, no, I'm not. We need to reopen and get things moving again, but we need to be smart about it until we can get a vaccine.
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Black Sheep
Except that wearing a mask isn't as much about protecting you as it is about protecting everyone else (if you're infected but asymptomatic, you can still spread the virus just by breathing or coughing). Running around stores without a mask is the equivalent of driving drunk; yes, the person most likely to get hurt is you, but you're also likely to hurt many innocent people.
Also, my wearing a mask has nothing to do with fear, any more than my carrying a gun is driven by fear.
And before the "Wolf suckup" comments start, no, I'm not. We need to reopen and get things moving again, but we need to be smart about it until we can get a vaccine.
You realize there are thousands of diseases that a vaccine can never be made for. What if this is one? Do we live the rest of our lives wearing a mask?
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Black Sheep
Except that wearing a mask isn't as much about protecting you as it is about protecting everyone else (if you're infected but asymptomatic, you can still spread the virus just by breathing or coughing). Running around stores without a mask is the equivalent of driving drunk; yes, the person most likely to get hurt is you, but you're also likely to hurt many innocent people.
Also, my wearing a mask has nothing to do with fear, any more than my carrying a gun is driven by fear.
And before the "Wolf suckup" comments start, no, I'm not. We need to reopen and get things moving again, but we need to be smart about it until we can get a vaccine.
Except wearing a cloth mask Infact makes me more likely to get ill.
And medical grade 95 or above trap and force rebreathibg of CO2, causing stress on the heart, brain damage, & potential end organ failure, plus heart attacks and the like.
Which doesn’t even get into the fact that experts have said this is obviously a man made chimera. Which like all chimeraa is rapidly breaking down to it’s far less lethal form, which is just a common cold.
Also this:
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ImminentDanger
Your continued promotion that THE SKY IS FALLING and WE MUST PANIC is simply wrong. Within 3-4 weeks of the start of this virus, the true information about who was vulnerable was rather clear, but it was being withheld or suppressed - To find it, you had to dig and evaluate it for yourself. Those who insisted on PANIC chose to lock down everything due to FEAR, while in their inept reactions, they moved coronavirus patients into nursing homes to infect the MOST VULNERABLE. Then they claimed the high mortality rate (a result of their own stupidity) proved they were doing the right thing of keeping everyone locked down despite that the data showed it was unnecessary.
As long as EVERYONE who is NOT, is treated as though they are THE MOST VULNERABLE, the idiocy will continue.
There will be some, maybe even many, more people who contract the virus - but OVERWHELMING, they will have mild or no symptoms, OVERWHELMING, most will not even have to be hospitalized.
EDICTS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
Those who understand and appreciate Freedom should be able to decide for themselves what level of RISK is acceptable. They should be provided accurate information to make an informed decision.
All those who are actually vulnerable and those who are simply scared should make decisions about isolation to prevent coming in contact with the virus. They have that Right - But their vulnerability and their decisions should not prevent others from making their choices for accepting the risk of moving forward with their lives WITHOUT THE PANIC REACTIONS.
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streaker69
You realize there are thousands of diseases that a vaccine can never be made for. What if this is one? Do we live the rest of our lives wearing a mask?
I've known a few that should use a bag.
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Sandcut
Well, if you are willing to OC, act this way and potentially escalate the situation to the point where someone is harmed over 60 square inches of cloth, you may yet get your wish.
Here lies WoolyPullover. Died angry at a bandana.
I didn't read that in his post. Understanding another's action and mimicking it are not the same. I understand why OJ wacked his ex. I still believe it's wrong to do that under any circumstances.
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For one, F-the masks. 2, target sells food/meds=no mask needed, oc'er could have argued his point
which leads me to 3.
It was intentional, some anti gun leftist freak. My spidy senses say so.
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Maybe it was a fudd who learned about guns at a bar.
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DukeConnor
Constitution Morher Fuckers
Spray paint that on my tombstone.
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Black Sheep
Except that wearing a mask isn't as much about protecting you as it is about protecting everyone else (if you're infected but asymptomatic, you can still spread the virus just by breathing or coughing). Running around stores without a mask is the equivalent of driving drunk; yes, the person most likely to get hurt is you, but you're also likely to hurt many innocent people.
Also, my wearing a mask has nothing to do with fear, any more than my carrying a gun is driven by fear.
And before the "Wolf suckup" comments start, no, I'm not. We need to reopen and get things moving again, but we need to be smart about it until we can get a vaccine.
Mostly true. The mask does one thing, it prevents your spittle from smacking someone in the face causing a direct mucus transfer.. It will not stop airborne, but this virus really does not carry like that.
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It would be helpful to explain how the "freedom & the Constitution, motherfucker" argument works when talking to Typhoid Mary, the food worker with typhus who kept changing her name to get work as a cook.
"From 1900 to 1907, Mallon worked as a cook in the New York City area for eight families, seven of which contracted typhoid. In 1900, she worked in Mamaroneck, New York, where within two weeks of her employment, residents developed typhoid fever. In 1901, she moved to Manhattan, where members of the family for whom she worked developed fevers and diarrhea, and the laundress died. Mallon then went to work for a lawyer and left after seven of the eight people in that household became ill.
In June 1904, she was hired by a prosperous lawyer, Henry Gilsey. Within a week, the laundress was infected with typhoid, and soon four of the seven servants were ill. No members of Gilsey's family were infected, because they resided separately, and the servants lived in their own house. The investigator Dr. R. L. Wilson concluded that the laundress had caused the outbreak, but he failed to prove it. Immediately after the outbreak began, Mallon left and moved to Tuxedo Park, where she was hired by George Kessler. Two weeks later, the laundress in his household was infected and taken to St. Joseph's Regional Medical Center, where her case of typhoid was the first in a long time.
In August 1906, Mallon took a position in Oyster Bay on Long Island with the family of a wealthy New York banker, Charles Henry Warren. Mallon went along with the Warrens when they rented a house in Oyster Bay for the summer of 1906. From August 27 to September 3, six of the 11 people in the family came down with typhoid fever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
Masks aren't about you, they're about protecting others from you, in a time when we don't have universal testing, and many infected people show no symptoms but are capable of infecting others, who may die. Mary Mallon's spewing of typhus was only stopped when the authorities grabbed her and quarantined her, because she (like many today) was utterly unwilling to inconvenience herself just to avoid killing others.
I'm not saying that shutting down the economy is a good idea. I'm saying that wearing masks to keep your infected snot away from others is a good idea. And "liberty" doesn't mean that YOU get to do whatever you want while all those around you have to suck it up.
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GunLawyer001
It would be helpful to explain how the "freedom & the Constitution, motherfucker" argument works when talking to Typhoid Mary, the food worker with typhus who kept changing her name to get work as a cook.
"From 1900 to 1907, Mallon worked as a cook in the New York City area for eight families, seven of which contracted typhoid. In 1900, she worked in Mamaroneck, New York, where within two weeks of her employment, residents developed typhoid fever. In 1901, she moved to Manhattan, where members of the family for whom she worked developed fevers and diarrhea, and the laundress died. Mallon then went to work for a lawyer and left after seven of the eight people in that household became ill.
In June 1904, she was hired by a prosperous lawyer, Henry Gilsey. Within a week, the laundress was infected with typhoid, and soon four of the seven servants were ill. No members of Gilsey's family were infected, because they resided separately, and the servants lived in their own house. The investigator Dr. R. L. Wilson concluded that the laundress had caused the outbreak, but he failed to prove it. Immediately after the outbreak began, Mallon left and moved to Tuxedo Park, where she was hired by George Kessler. Two weeks later, the laundress in his household was infected and taken to St. Joseph's Regional Medical Center, where her case of typhoid was the first in a long time.
In August 1906, Mallon took a position in Oyster Bay on Long Island with the family of a wealthy New York banker, Charles Henry Warren. Mallon went along with the Warrens when they rented a house in Oyster Bay for the summer of 1906. From August 27 to September 3, six of the 11 people in the family came down with typhoid fever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
Masks aren't about you, they're about protecting others from you, in a time when we don't have universal testing, and many infected people show no symptoms but are capable of infecting others, who may die. Mary Mallon's spewing of typhus was only stopped when the authorities grabbed her and quarantined her, because she (like many today) was utterly unwilling to inconvenience herself just to avoid killing others.
I'm not saying that shutting down the economy is a good idea. I'm saying that wearing masks to keep your infected snot away from others is a good idea. And "liberty" doesn't mean that YOU get to do whatever you want while all those around you have to suck it up.
From someone in the high risk age group, thank you and well said.
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Originally Posted by
GunLawyer001
It would be helpful to explain how the "freedom & the Constitution, motherfucker" argument works when talking to Typhoid Mary, the food worker with typhus who kept changing her name to get work as a cook.
"From 1900 to 1907, Mallon worked as a cook in the New York City area for eight families, seven of which contracted typhoid. In 1900, she worked in Mamaroneck, New York, where within two weeks of her employment, residents developed typhoid fever. In 1901, she moved to Manhattan, where members of the family for whom she worked developed fevers and diarrhea, and the laundress died. Mallon then went to work for a lawyer and left after seven of the eight people in that household became ill.
In June 1904, she was hired by a prosperous lawyer, Henry Gilsey. Within a week, the laundress was infected with typhoid, and soon four of the seven servants were ill. No members of Gilsey's family were infected, because they resided separately, and the servants lived in their own house. The investigator Dr. R. L. Wilson concluded that the laundress had caused the outbreak, but he failed to prove it. Immediately after the outbreak began, Mallon left and moved to Tuxedo Park, where she was hired by George Kessler. Two weeks later, the laundress in his household was infected and taken to St. Joseph's Regional Medical Center, where her case of typhoid was the first in a long time.
In August 1906, Mallon took a position in Oyster Bay on Long Island with the family of a wealthy New York banker, Charles Henry Warren. Mallon went along with the Warrens when they rented a house in Oyster Bay for the summer of 1906. From August 27 to September 3, six of the 11 people in the family came down with typhoid fever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
Masks aren't about you, they're about protecting others from you, in a time when we don't have universal testing, and many infected people show no symptoms but are capable of infecting others, who may die. Mary Mallon's spewing of typhus was only stopped when the authorities grabbed her and quarantined her, because she (like many today) was utterly unwilling to inconvenience herself just to avoid killing others.
I'm not saying that shutting down the economy is a good idea. I'm saying that wearing masks to keep your infected snot away from others is a good idea. And "liberty" doesn't mean that YOU get to do whatever you want while all those around you have to suck it up.
Youve taken your argument to the extreme to make your point, I get that, but Typhus and Covid 19 are not the same thing, and Mary knew she had Typhus and went out to spread it anyway, something most people would not do, and while there is no vaccine for Covid 19, there are effective treatments that reduce the mortality rate down to about the same rate as the common flu or the common cold. You can take any argument to the extreme and make whatever point you want to out of it, but when you take this for what it is in reality, it's just a notch above nothing.
Even before Covid 19 it was illegal to spit or blow snot on another person, was it not? That hasn't changed. So now we have to wear masked to keep us from doing something that was already illegal and/or at least frowned upon. Nothing has changed except now we are not trusted to not expel fluids on others without the government ordering dress code restrictions on healthy people. Yes, healthy people, because 99.999% of the people ordered to wear masks do not have the virus.
At what point do we stop this, the curve is flat, the medical community is not overwhelmed, we have adequate equipment and treatments, Covid 19 cases are dropping every day even as other restrictions are lifted.
How do you justify mandating masks for every single person while less than 1/1000 people may be able to spread the virus (even if you were to actually swap spit with them not to mention the chances of their spit actually landing on your mucus membrane in daily conversation). When not elevated to the level of Typhus, it seems ridiculous.
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It is up to those at risk individuals to protect themselves. It is not up to the rest of society to engage in a dog and pony show, that is basically ineffectual, just to make those at risk feel safe while not actually making them so.
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https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...sed-sound-data
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While this is not an exhaustive review of masks and respirators as source control and PPE, we made our best effort to locate and review the most relevant studies of laboratory and real-world performance to inform our recommendations. Results from laboratory studies of filter and fit performance inform and support the findings in real-world settings.
Cloth masks are ineffective as source control and PPE, surgical masks have some role to play in preventing emissions from infected patients, and respirators are the best choice for protecting healthcare and other frontline workers, but not recommended for source control. These recommendations apply to pandemic and non-pandemic situations.
Non-medical masks are useless at best, and may even contribute to the spread of the virus through cross contamination.
It seems like everyone wears masks in china and most of southeast asia even when they are healthy. It doesn't seem to have affected anything there.
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ray h
Youve taken your argument to the extreme to make your point, I get that, but Typhus and Covid 19 are not the same thing, and Mary knew she had Typhus and went out to spread it anyway, something most people would not do, and while there is no vaccine for Covid 19, there are effective treatments that reduce the mortality rate down to about the same rate as the common flu or the common cold. You can take any argument to the extreme and make whatever point you want to out of it, but when you take this for what it is in reality, it's just a notch above nothing.
Even before Covid 19 it was illegal to spit or blow snot on another person, was it not? That hasn't changed. So now we have to wear masked to keep us from doing something that was already illegal and/or at least frowned upon. Nothing has changed except now we are not trusted to not expel fluids on others without the government ordering dress code restrictions on healthy people. Yes, healthy people, because 99.999% of the people ordered to wear masks do not have the virus.
At what point do we stop this, the curve is flat, the medical community is not overwhelmed, we have adequate equipment and treatments, Covid 19 cases are dropping every day even as other restrictions are lifted.
How do you justify mandating masks for every single person while less than 1/1000 people may be able to spread the virus (even if you were to actually swap spit with them not to mention the chances of their spit actually landing on your mucus membrane in daily conversation). When not elevated to the level of Typhus, it seems ridiculous.
Mary was immune to typhus, she was just a carrier, so according to some here, the rest of the world should have just put on their big-boy pants if they were afraid of catching typhus, instead of making her take a pay cut from $50/month as a cook to $20/month as anything else.
She infected at least 53 people, and 3 who died. Typhus isn't exactly Ebola. But people who have typhus have an obligation to not infect others, and at the time, Mary didn't believe she had typhus because she never felt sick, and "science" didn't believe in asymptomatic typhus. I suspect some percentage of PAFOA regulars would defend her right to earn a living doing work in arms-length transactions (although if she told prospective employers her name, they'd refuse, which is why she used aliases.) Because "freedom".
I don't have the perfect answer to this, although technology often provides a solution, eventually. Unless the last sample of COVID-19 is isolated and destroyed, or we get a vaccine and a cure, we will always have some folks wandering around spreading it. Should we just accept that we will need to wear masks forever? Should we shut down all businesses and let the govt run sealed factories to produce the food and consumer goods they think we need? Should we let Darwin take over and just kill off most of the old people and sickly kids and fat people, so that in the future we'll have fewer Americans but healthier Americans (see the Star Trek episode "The Omega Glory", e.g.; also, Joe Stalin) It really depends on who you're willing to foist the costs onto.
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GunLawyer001
Mary was immune to typhus, she was just a carrier, so according to some here, the rest of the world should have just put on their big-boy pants if they were afraid of catching typhus, instead of making her take a pay cut from $50/month as a cook to $20/month as anything else.
She infected at least 53 people, and 3 who died. Typhus isn't exactly Ebola. But people who have typhus have an obligation to not infect others, and at the time, Mary didn't believe she had typhus because she never felt sick, and "science" didn't believe in asymptomatic typhus. I suspect some percentage of PAFOA regulars would defend her right to earn a living doing work in arms-length transactions (although if she told prospective employers her name, they'd refuse, which is why she used aliases.) Because "freedom".
I don't have the perfect answer to this, although technology often provides a solution, eventually. Unless the last sample of COVID-19 is isolated and destroyed, or we get a vaccine and a cure, we will always have some folks wandering around spreading it. Should we just accept that we will need to wear masks forever? Should we shut down all businesses and let the govt run sealed factories to produce the food and consumer goods they think we need? Should we let Darwin take over and just kill off most of the old people and sickly kids and fat people, so that in the future we'll have fewer Americans but healthier Americans (see the Star Trek episode "The Omega Glory", e.g.; also, Joe Stalin) It really depends on who you're willing to foist the costs onto.
This disease isn't nearly as deadly as they claimed it was. They used faulty models to push their idea that shutting down the country would stop it. Should we do that with every disease that spreads and has the potential to kill people with comorbidities? Is it a shame that people are dying from this? Maybe, no more than people dying of any other disease that we've never destroyed the economy for.
Your post there sounds like the longer version of "if it saves just one life, it's worth it." I've asked multiple times, how long do you people that think wearing a mask is a good idea should we be forced to wear them to go about our daily business? Personally, I don't want to live my life that way, if that makes me a selfish prick, so be it, but I'm sick of it. It's pointless to force healthy people to wear them. If you're fearful of catching it, wear a mask, stay 6'1" away from people, dress yourself up in a hazmat suit for all I care, but don't force me to live your mania.
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streaker69
This disease isn't nearly as deadly as they claimed it was. They used faulty models to push their idea that shutting down the country would stop it. Should we do that with every disease that spreads and has the potential to kill people with comorbidities? Is it a shame that people are dying from this? Maybe, no more than people dying of any other disease that we've never destroyed the economy for.
Your post there sounds like the longer version of "if it saves just one life, it's worth it." I've asked multiple times, how long do you people that think wearing a mask is a good idea should we be forced to wear them to go about our daily business? Personally, I don't want to live my life that way, if that makes me a selfish prick, so be it, but I'm sick of it. It's pointless to force healthy people to wear them. If you're fearful of catching it, wear a mask, stay 6'1" away from people, dress yourself up in a hazmat suit for all I care, but don't force me to live your mania.
I was pretty explicit about not pushing any particular solution, because unlike some here, I don't see complex issues as binary.
Just as a thought problem: Does your laissez-faire approach also apply to seniors in nursing homes? Why?
What about kids with peanut allergies, should schools go back to letting every kid bring in PB&J sandwiches and just accept that some 5 year olds will die? There are arguments on both sides of that.
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GunLawyer001
I was pretty explicit about not pushing any particular solution, because unlike some here, I don't see complex issues as binary.
Just as a thought problem: Does your laissez-faire approach also apply to seniors in nursing homes? Why?
What about kids with peanut allergies, should schools go back to letting every kid bring in PB&J sandwiches and just accept that some 5 year olds will die? There are arguments on both sides of that.
You should stop carrying a gun because it scares some people and guns are known to kill kids.
As I ask, how long do we do this? What's the criteria for letting us live our lives unmasked? It's almost as though no one has ever died from a contagious disease before.
As far as PB in schools, when my kids were still going to a public school they kept the weak kids at a separate table so that other kids could enjoy their PB sammiches. I've never been a big fan of punishing the entire class for the misdeeds or weakness of a few. There are solutions that don't involve stupidity. Everyone wants to talk about science, where's the government approved triple blind study that shows that masks have been effective at flattening the curve? Is there one or is it all a tranny fantasy?
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Re: Target in Chambersburg: OC butthole
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jcourson
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...sed-sound-data
Non-medical masks are useless at best, and may even contribute to the spread of the virus through cross contamination.
It seems like everyone wears masks in china and most of southeast asia even when they are healthy. It doesn't seem to have affected anything there.
they wear masks in those areas because the air quality is literal shit; you'd be better off breathing in actual sewer gas. heavy particulates are so prevalent that you'll blacken your mask within a couple hours, and "white shirt" workers will have to change mid-day from it getting dingy. a little corona is the LEAST of their worries.
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I was pretty explicit about not pushing any particular solution, because unlike some here, I don't see complex issues as binary.
Just as a thought problem: Does your laissez-faire approach also apply to seniors in nursing homes? Why?
What about kids with peanut allergies, should schools go back to letting every kid bring in PB&J sandwiches and just accept that some 5 year olds will die? There are arguments on both sides of that.
Include me in the group who doesn't profess to know the answer to everyone's ills, but I'm getting a pretty good idea of the answer for ME. For me, the day is coming soon when I just say "no more mask". That decision will have nothing to do with anyone else, it'll have to do with what is right for me.
Life is dangerous, it's a lot more dangerous when you have to depend on government regulations to keep you safe.
I really feel that social distancing accounts for 80%, washing hands accounts for 10%, cleaning surfaces accounts for 8% and masks account for 2% in stopping/slowing the spread. Seriously, just stay away from people, wash your hands and what you touch, and this shit will go away, with or without masks.