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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    List of public officials you can call and notify of this issue:

    Lock Haven City Officials:

    City Manager: Richard Marcinkevage; phone - 893-5900
    Assistant Administrator: Rita A. Foley; phone - 893-5907
    Airport Manager: Edward Watson; phone - 748-5123
    City Treasurer: Angela M. Black; phone - 893-5620
    Code Officer: David F. Romig; phone - 893-5622
    Zoning Officer: Cynthia D. Walker; phone - 893-5623
    Health Officer: Patty Jones; phone - 893-5916
    Engineer: Jason Dershem; phone - 893-5904
    City Planner: Leonora Hannagan; phone - 893-5903
    Fire Chief: Robert L. Neff; phone - 748-6462
    Police Chief: Elwood Hocker; phone - 893-5630
    Levee Superintendent: Gary L. Ferree; phone - 893-5906
    Sewer Superintendent: Michael Glantz; phone - 893-5920
    Streets/Parks Foreman: Perry E. Walker; phone - 893-5917
    Water Superintendent: Water Superintendent; phone - 893-5625
    Recreation Director: John H. Bailey; phone - 893-5612

    Mill Hall Officials:

    MAYOR
    Tom Bittner 117 N Chestnut St, Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 1) 726-8071

    COUNCILMAN
    Harold L. Brungard 114 Dewey St, Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2008-2012 (vote 4) 726-4821

    George K. Cross 311 Main St, Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2008-2012 (vote 4) 726-4295

    Warren (Ted) Jodun 335 Willow Ln, Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2008-2012 (vote 4) 726-6178

    Vincent H. Shay, Jr. 224 S. Chestnut St., Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2008-2012 (vote 4) 726-4311

    Michael J. Renninger 2945 Eagle Valley Rd, Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 3) 726-7563

    Daniel D. Duck, Jr. 110 Dewey St, Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 3) 726-7818

    Thomas Cryder 230 Hobson St, Mill Hall, PA 17751 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 3) 726-7704

    SECRETARY/TREASURER
    Debra Hill 215 Beech Creek Ave, Mill Hall, PA 17751 726-4008

    FLEMINGTON BOROUGH:

    MAYOR
    Gary L. Durkin 440 Woods Ave, Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 1) 748-4895

    COUNCILMAN

    Paul LaRocque Parkwood Dr., Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2010-2012 (vote 3) 748-4895

    Catherine Shope 222 High St, Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2008-2012 (vote 3)

    Stephen Hoy (Appt.) 1211 N Hillview St, Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2008-2012 (vote 3) 748-2605

    Wayne Allison (Appt.) 25 Parkwood Dr, Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 4) 748-8458

    David E. Grimm 617 Wright St, Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 4) 748-3128

    Albert (Hap) Hill 400 Frederick St, Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 4) 748-9060

    Mary Ann Dion 1142 W. Fourth St, Flemington, PA 17745 4 Yr Trm 2010-2014 (vote 4)

    SECRETARY/TREASURER

    Charity Chaplain Boro Bldg, 126 High St, Flemington, PA 17745 748-7488

    Clinton County Commissioner's Office:

    Clinton County Government
    232 East Main Street
    Lock Haven, PA 17745
    (570) 893-4000

    Rep. Michael K. Hanna

    302 Main Capitol Building
    PO Box 202076
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2076
    (717) 772-2283
    Fax: (717) 787-4137

    29 Bellefonte Avenue
    Lock Haven, PA 17745-1207
    (570) 748-5480
    Fax: (570) 748-5328

    Sen. John N. Wozniak

    Senate Box 203035
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-3035
    182 Capitol Building
    (717) 787-5400

    2307 Bedford Street
    Johnstown, PA 15904
    (814) 266-2277

  2. #52
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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    I just talked to Tom Bossert who is one of the County Commissioners and he was VERY supportive and will be making calls of his own about the issue. Thanks to all who are helping get this changed.

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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    Let me know your thoughts on this... I am going to submit this to the local paper as a letter to the editor:

    Borough Ordinances and Essential Liberty

    All of us like our communities to be safe places for we and our families to live and enjoy. We all want order and peace and expect our neighbors to abide by the law and not commit crimes which inflict harm upon us. Sometimes in the effort to preserve their safety good people go too far and infringe upon the rights of others to ensure their safety as they see fit. This is why we have a Bill of Rights in our U.S. Constitution; because the framers of this country knew the nature of goverment to overstep its bounds even with the best of intentions. Unfortunately, several communities in the area have committed a violation against the civil rights of their citizens through several illegal borough and city ordinances. Mill Hall, Flemington, and the city of Lock Haven have provisions in their laws that limit the right of law abiding citizens to carry arms in defense of themselves and their families in parks and recreation areas. In addition, Flemington borough has an ordinance prohibiting obcense language in the park which is a direct violation of free speech. These laws and in particualar those banning the carry of firearms are in direct violation of state law which prohibits local government from regulating the carry of firearms where state law does not prohibit. Allow me to quote first the PA Uniform Firearms Act(6120.):

    "No county, municipality or township may in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this commonwealth."

    Now allow me to quote our state constitution:

    ""The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned."

    So if the law is clear why is there a problem? Why do I have to bother fighting for a right that is established so clearly by state law and our U.S. Constitution? It is the same reason most civil liberties and freedoms fall by the wayside and its one word: safety. In the name of feeling safe people will hand over right after right. They will even give up the rights of others to make themselves feel safer, but what they fail to understand is the principle of essential liberty. The idea that there a concrete set of freedoms which are needed for the continued success of a free society. Laying any one of these down in the name of any pragmatic ideal is foolhardy if you want to preserve individual liberty. I will use one my most favorite quotes from the man who helped father not just this state's government but that of our nation:

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin "

    I am submitting letters to each of these local governments and requested they change their law to reflect state law. I am writing this as a service to those who agree and disagree with me alike in the hope that I have stirred your mind and your awareness to the importance of upholding and preserving ALL of our civil rights as citizens not only in our respective communities but as a nation.

    Thank you all for taking the time to read this.

    Sincerely,

    Timothy L Havener
    Last edited by t1m0thy; April 21st, 2010 at 01:30 PM.

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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    Great letter Tim, hope to see it in the paper

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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    Nicely done.

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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    Someone suggested to send it to the centre daily times so I just emailed them a copy as well. I also dropped off the signed letters at the post office and sent them certified mail signature required. Let's see what happens.

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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    Nice Letter. So much better than the one I was trying to put together.

    After talking with dad it sounds like several local NRA members will be at the Mill Hall boro meeting Tuesday. That group may get larger after the Local friends of the NRA Banquet in Sunday.
    The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B2Luv2Hunt View Post
    Nice Letter. So much better than the one I was trying to put together.

    After talking with dad it sounds like several local NRA members will be at the Mill Hall boro meeting Tuesday. That group may get larger after the Local friends of the NRA Banquet in Sunday.
    btw I love your dad's hat tuesday should be interesting.

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    Default Re: The entire Lock Haven area is in violation of preemption

    Quote Originally Posted by t1m0thy View Post
    btw I love your dad's hat tuesday should be interesting.
    He may have his dress cowboy Hat on Tuesday. He maybe in full Dress cowboy Gear. If he would OC his Judge, that would top it off.
    The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

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    Default Re: Mill Hall Boro in violation of preemption

    Quote Originally Posted by renegadephoenix View Post
    Flemmington sign is a violation of 6120 as well as 1st amendment, Get'em Tim!
    So is Virginia Beach?:

    Virginia Beach City Code

    Sec. 23-12. Abusive language.
    If any person shall, in the presence or hearing of another, curse or abuse such other person, or use any violent abusive language to such other person concerning himself or any of his relations, or otherwise use such language under circumstances reasonably calculated to provoke a breach of the peace, he shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor.
    (Code 1965, 23-1)
    State law references: Similar provisions, Code of Virginia, 18.2-416.

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