Open carry confusion

[NoName011]

yea I was just thinking about that today little red ... Does anyone know of any comparisons done in firing time between a good DA revolver and a semi auto...

[MrUgly]

*snip*
(you can, with an LTCF or sportmen's permit, carry a pistol for self-defense while hunting, but you cannot actually hunt with it.)

Could you provide a location for this? I have been told by several hunters that I know and trust that carrying a sidearm during deer season is illegal. Because I trust him, I take him at his word, but if I challenge him, I'd like to have documentation, specifically pertaining to possessing a sidearm (loaded or unloaded) on State Game lands.

The PGC website is a brutal mess to surf.

[Brick]

From page 20 of the 2007 - 2008 Hunting and Trapping Digest

Firearms - Handguns: A Sportsman's Firearms permit or a License to Carry Firearms is required to carry a handgun concealled or in a motor vehicle... .

[LittleRedToyota]

your friend was right up until the end of last year/beginning of this year.

prior to that it was illegal to carry a semi-auto pistol while hunting even if you had an LTCF. however, that law was changed at the end of last year and went into effect early this year.

here is a link to the text of the bill:

http://www.acslpa.org/n-legislative/HB%202563.htm

here is a link referencing when it was passed and signed into law:

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=2503

(it became effective 60 days after it was signed into law on 12/08/06).

[PA-Joe]

If you are talking about carrying during archery seasons, etc. That was a recent PA State Act that has just gone into effect. The law was passed after the digest was printed. In the past you could not carry while hunting.

[GunLawyer001]

I would just have to continue following the laws.. Gun unloaded and gun and ammo in a seperate container. Load up after exiting vehicle...

I think I need to clarify this. You are not allowed to drive around with a handgun in your vehicle without a License to Carry Firearms. There are some exceptions, but they are narrow, for direct travel between your home and the gun range, for direct travel to and from the gun shop for repair or sale, and a few others. It's only within those exceptions that it matters whether the weapon is unloaded and separated from the ammo. If you are not within an exception, it's not a defense that the gun was unloaded, or even that it was unfireable.

There have been successful prosecutions for individuals who carried the stripped frame of a handgun in a vehicle, without ammunition. The frame is the gun. The statute doesn't require that your carry poses any risk to anyone, or that it could do the things that guns do. If the serialized part is in the vehicle, and you don't have a license or an exception, you're guilty.

[Zef_66]

I have a PDF copy of the PGC Hunter's Safety Book.

I downloaded it from their website here.

But like Red said, it is in the digest. Or click on the 'General Hunting Regulations' link on the page I listed above.

[MrUgly]

From page 20 of the 2007 - 2008 Hunting and Trapping Digest

Firearms - Handguns: A Sportsman's Firearms permit or a License to Carry Firearms is required to carry a handgun concealled or in a motor vehicle... .

....

Or I could have read the f*cking manual. Yeah.

*slinks off*

Thank you.

[Pa. Patriot]

From this years PGC Digest:
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/lib/p...07/updates.pdf

"All hunters and spotlighters who have a License to Carry Firearms Permit can now carry firearms, but only those authorized by the permit, which are defined in Title 18, Section 6102 of the Crimes Code. (Most sporting
arms are not authorized.)"

[djturnz]

Whilst reading this thread I just thought of something.

SAy I don't have my LTCF (which of course I do 'cause all the cool kids are doin it) but I'm not prohibitted.

So I become an OCer.

I would have no way to LEGALLY go anywhere unless I walk.

The law says I can only carry a handgun in the car (unloaded) to or from my house, gun shop, shooting range, fixed place of business.

If I am running into town to run errands i can't legally have my gun unloaded in the car, load it when I get there, walk around town OCing, unload the gun, get in the car and go home.

Is this correct?