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March 31st, 2010, 11:53 PM #1Grand Member
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U.S. Model 1895 Springfield Armory????
I saw this in an ad with no picture and i searched google but I cannot find this rifle. Is this a real rifle or did someone get it mixed up?
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April 1st, 2010, 12:00 AM #2
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The War Department had exhaustively studied and dissected several examples of the Mauser Model 93 rifle captured during the Spanish-American War, and combined features of both the U.S. Krag Rifle Models 1894-1898, and the Mauser Model 93, to produce the new U.S. Springfield Rifle, Model 1903. Still, the 1903's used so many design features from the German Mauser that the U.S. government paid royalties to Mauserwerke.
By January 1905 over 80,000 of these rifles had been produced at the federally-owned Springfield Armory. However, President Theodore Roosevelt objected to the design of the bayonet used (a rod-type) as being too flimsy for combat. All the rifles to that point consequently had to be re-tooled for a blade-type bayonet, called the M1905. A new improved Model 1904 sight was also added.
The retooling was almost complete when it was decided another change would be made. It was to incorporate improvements discovered during experimentation in the interim, most notably the use of pointed ammunition, first adopted by the French in the 1890s and later other countries. The round itself was based on the .30-03, but rather than a 220-grain (14 g) round-tip bullet fired at 2,300 ft/s (700 m/s), it had a 150-grain (9.7 g) pointed bullet fired at 2,800 ft/s (810 m/s); the case neck was a fraction of an inch shorter as well. The new American cartridge was designated "Cartridge, Ball, Caliber .30, Model of 1906"; this M1906 cartridge is the famous .30-06 ammunition used in countless rifles and machine guns, and still among the world's most popular civilian cartridges to the present day. The rifle's sights were again re-tooled to compensate for the speed and trajectory of the new cartridge. As further testing revealed that the M1906 cartridge was effective with a shorter, all-purpose barrel length of 24 inches (610 mm) in length, the decision was made to issue the Springfield with a 24" barrel length to both cavalry and infantry forces, an idea already adopted by both the British and German armies.Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
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April 1st, 2010, 06:00 AM #4Grand Member
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Re: U.S. Model 1895 Springfield Armory????
My knowledge in this or any subject is not exhaustive, but for what it is worth I have never heard of an 1895 Springfield.
By 1895 we were using Krags. There are 1892s, 1896s, etc. but I don't believe there was a 1895.
As I say I don't believe there is such a critter, but I have been wrong before.
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April 6th, 2010, 11:01 PM #5
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I believe the 1895 Springfield mentioned is a carbine version of the Krag. It was built at the Springfield Armory and was probably more commonly known as a 1895 Springfield.
Heck the 1903 Springfield is just a tweaked Mauser 98. But it's still known as the Springfield.
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April 6th, 2010, 11:05 PM #6
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April 6th, 2010, 11:13 PM #7
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June 9th, 2011, 06:25 PM #8Junior Member
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Re: U.S. Model 1895 Springfield Armory????
I came across this old post during a Google search and joined PAFOA to help out with this a little.
The Springfield 1895 is a Krag. many are rare, early variants of the 1896 Krag carbine. Amongst fellow Kragaphiles this model is commonly referred to as a '95/'96 carbine. I wouldn't call it a prototype 1896 carbine, as there were over a thousand of them made. Their serial numbers are in the ballpark of 26000 to 30000
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June 9th, 2011, 07:28 PM #9
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Well, as to prior comments, it's more than likely a Krag, but it's definitely a long rifle or a cut-down long rifle, likely a model 1892, as the first Krag carbines weren't officially produced until 1896.
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June 9th, 2011, 08:05 PM #10
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