Recourse for Carriers permit once deinied

[ryan4882]

I would point out that expungement isn't available for a misdemeanor level offense if you pled guilty.. however, minor first time drug offenses like paraphernalia are often addressed with a Section 17 disposition which is the ARD-like disposition for drug act violations. You are never guilty or innocent and should be an automatic expungement if you complete the terms and conditions of the "probationary" sentence. If you disposed of the case with a section 17, you may be able to file the expungement petition to get things squared away.

Not quite sure what all that means, or what i need to do,lol. I went to court, plead guilty, received a $25 fine, $650 in court costs, set up a payment plan and walked out the door pissed off, lol. I know there was a gun website a friend had given me in the past where you could find your state rep and send them an email with questions or concerns but i don't remember the site. I'm determined to get my permit or at least some answers as to why not. Thank you all for your help and information

[son of the revolution]

Not quite sure what all that means, or what i need to do,lol. I went to court, plead guilty, received a $25 fine, $650 in court costs, set up a payment plan and walked out the door pissed off, lol. I know there was a gun website a friend had given me in the past where you could find your state rep and send them an email with questions or concerns but i don't remember the site. I'm determined to get my permit or at least some answers as to why not. Thank you all for your help and information

What he's trying to tell you is that depending on EXACTLY what you pled to, it MIGHT already be subject to expungement, but you have to request it. You would need to either look at the original papers you received after court, or look up your case and find the information. Depending on what it is will tell you how to proceed. But based on the fine amount you quoted, it sounds like it may have been a misdemeanor possesion charge. I am NOT a lawyer, so you'll have to do some research or see if one of our resident lawyers on PAFOA finds this thread and can share their opinion.

[ryan4882]

I'm a little unclear on something. You said you applied several times... how many?

And why would you keep applying after the first time you were denied without knowing exactly why and how to try and correct the problem (expungement, etc.)?

And as mentioned, the sheriff must tell you why you were denied. And there is an appeal process available.

I applied 3 times, not sure why i didn't check up on things, call it complacency. I was not aware that they were required to give an explanation and i was never offered any paperwork to submit an appeal. All i know is i am trying to fix this problem now and am determined to do so

[HiredGoon]

I applied 3 times, not sure why i didn't check up on things, call it complacency. I was not aware that they were required to give an explanation and i was never offered any paperwork to submit an appeal. All i know is i am trying to fix this problem now and am determined to do so

Wow, that's strange that the sheriff's office would keep letting you apply without explaining to you, as required by statute, why you were denied the first time.

Is it possible that if the sheriff sent you a notice that it somehow got mis-delivered while you were in the service and you never received it?

From the statute:

"(g) Grant or denial of license.--Upon the receipt of an application for a license to carry a firearm, the sheriff shall, within 45 days, issue or refuse to issue a license on the basis of the investigation under subsection (d) and the accuracy of the information contained in the application.

If the sheriff refuses to issue a license, the sheriff shall notify the applicant in writing of the refusal and the specific reasons. The notice shall be sent by certified mail to the applicant at the address set forth in the application."

[falcn]

...bad echo in here.

[normanvin]

. All i know is i am trying to fix this problem now and am determined to do so

Good. Keep us posted.

[jahwarrior72]

i don't know if anyone's asked: you were turned down for a LTCF, but can you still legally own a firearm?

[normanvin]

i don't know if anyone's asked: you were turned down for a LTCF, but can you still legally own a firearm?

Good question. ..

[jahwarrior72]

Good question. ..

i only ask because i know it's possible. Meleanie, Greg, Tess, etc...they were still able to legally own and carry, just not in a vehicle, or concealed.

[knight0334]

i don't know if anyone's asked: you were turned down for a LTCF, but can you still legally own a firearm?

The requirement for a LTCF is only slightly more stringent than possession/ownership. Any violation of the Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act will prohibit issuance of a LTCF(see 6106(e)(ii) ).

Where as 6105(Prohibited Persons) requires a conviction with a sentence of more than two years for ownership/possession(see 6105(c)(2) ).


The OP's only recourse is a pardon and expungement, unless he went through an ARD program which should have an option for a statutory expungement.