Sign in OHIO. NO Guns Allowed

[Mtbkski]

With my Utah Permit on its way soon I hope. I was reviewing Ohio's Carry Rules to make sure I knew where I could and couldn't carry. I know that a business can order a sign to put up in your place of business, but it isn't like these. Any idea if these are legal, and what they mean exactly. I took the pics below, last year. One was at a big Family Campground. The other was at a big field that was used for camping for the Jamborree in the Hills.

Now, according to the sign. No guns can be carried. But what about having one in a lock box inside my car, till I leave the premises? Would that be in violationg of these signs?


Sign at a Jellystone Campground.


Big Signs at entrance to camping for Jamborree in the Hills.



Here is the list of Prohibited Places that I found on the internet.

Prohibited Places



The concealed carry licensee is prohibited from carrying a concealed weapon in any of the following places:

Police station
Sheriff's Office
State Highway Patrol Post
Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation
State Correctional Facility
Jail
Workhouse
Detention Facility
Airport passenger terminal
Mental Health Facility
Mental Retardation and developmental disabilities facility
School Safety Zone (2923.122)

1.School Building
2.School Premises
3.School Activity
4.School Bus B3
Courthouse or structure where court is located (2923.123)
Any room/open air arena where D liquor permit issued (2923.121)(liquor consumed on premises)
Any owned/leased premise of a private or public College (exception - licensee must keep firearm locked in their motor vehicle)
Any church, synagogue, place of worship (exception - unless with prior approval from person authorized to give approval)
Any day care center with children present (exception - licensee's own children in licensee's own home, when no other children are present)
Any aircraft, foreign, interstate, intrastate transportation of mail
Any building or part owned or leased by State or political subdivision
Any place prohibited by Federal Law

[HiredGoon]

They just have a semi-auto handgun in the circle with the red line, so revolvers must be OK, huh?

[SigSauer226]

Well I don't really have an answer for your question... but I do thank you for posting that list of places we can't carry in Ohio. I'm moving there this summer and so I've been unsure of the laws there. If you ever find anything more on Ohio's carry laws please add them to this post.

[HiredGoon]

Looks like some useful info here:

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/Ohio-Gun-Laws

and here:

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/ConcealedCarryBook

[bdevil73]

Statutory Reference(s): R.C. 2923.126(C) allows private employers
to prohibit the presence of firearms on their property or
in motor vehicles owned by the employer.
R.C. 2923.126(C)(3) allows the owner or person in control of
private land to post a sign in a conspicuous place that prohibits
persons from carrying concealed firearms on that property.

That is from the pdf booklet covering CC you can download at the Ohio AG's website.

You can also check out http://www.ohioccwforums.org for more info.

[Mtbkski]

Found this. But it doesn't really explain much. But this is the signage that I am seeing. I don't know if this is something you can just decide to put up.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.1212

2923.1212 Signage prohibiting concealed handguns.
(A) The following persons, boards, and entities, or designees, shall post in the following locations a sign that contains a statement in substantially the following form: “Unless otherwise authorized by law, pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code, no person shall knowingly possess, have under the person’s control, convey, or attempt to convey a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance onto these premises.” :

(1) The director of public safety or the person or board charged with the erection, maintenance, or repair of police stations, municipal jails, and the municipal courthouse and courtrooms in a conspicuous location at all police stations, municipal jails, and municipal courthouses and courtrooms;

(2) The sheriff or sheriff’s designee who has charge of the sheriff’s office in a conspicuous location in that office;

(3) The superintendent of the state highway patrol or the superintendent’s designee in a conspicuous location at all state highway patrol stations;

(4) Each sheriff, chief of police, or person in charge of every county, multicounty, municipal, municipal-county, or multicounty-municipal jail or workhouse, community-based correctional facility, halfway house, alternative residential facility, or other local or state correctional institution or detention facility within the state, or that person’s designee, in a conspicuous location at that facility under that person’s charge;

(5) The board of trustees of a regional airport authority, chief administrative officer of an airport facility, or other person in charge of an airport facility in a conspicuous location at each airport facility under that person’s control;

(6) The officer or officer’s designee who has charge of a courthouse or the building or structure in which a courtroom is located in a conspicuous location in that building or structure;

(7) The superintendent of the bureau of criminal identification and investigation or the superintendent’s designee in a conspicuous location in all premises controlled by that bureau;

(8) The owner, administrator, or operator of a child day-care center, a type A family day-care home, a type B family day-care home, or a type C family day-care home;

(9) The officer of this state or of a political subdivision of this state, or the officer’s designee, who has charge of a building that is a government facility of this state or the political subdivision of this state, as defined in section 2923.126 of the Revised Code, and that is not a building that is used primarily as a shelter, restroom, parking facility for motor vehicles, or rest facility and is not a courthouse or other building or structure in which a courtroom is located that is subject to division (B)(3) of that section.

(B) The following boards, bodies, and persons, or designees, shall post in the following locations a sign that contains a statement in substantially the following form: “Unless otherwise authorized by law, pursuant to Ohio Revised Code section 2923.122, no person shall knowingly possess, have under the person’s control, convey, or attempt to convey a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance into a school safety zone.” :

(1) A board of education of a city, local, exempted village, or joint vocational school district or that board’s designee in a conspicuous location in each building and on each parcel of real property owned or controlled by the board;

(2) A governing body of a school for which the state board of education prescribes minimum standards under section 3301.07 of the Revised Code or that body’s designee in a conspicuous location in each building and on each parcel of real property owned or controlled by the school;

(3) The principal or chief administrative officer of a nonpublic school in a conspicuous location on property owned or controlled by that nonpublic school.

Effective Date: 04-08-2004; 2008 SB184 09-09-2008

[XD45]

Private Property and the Workplace
Under the law, private employers may, but are not required to, prohibit the presence of frearms on their property or motor vehicles owned by the employer. You should make yourself aware of your employer’s policies before you go to work with a handgun. In addition, the owner or person in control of private land or premises or person leasing land or premises from the government may post a sign in a conspicuous location that prohibits persons from carrying frearms or concealed handguns.Ohio law provides that a person who knowingly violates a posted prohibition of a parking lot or other parking facility is not guilty of criminal trespass but is liable for a civil cause of action for trespass.Furthermore, a landlord may not prohibit or restrict a tenant with a concealed carry license from lawfully carrying or possessing a handgun on residential premises.
Signage
The law does not say precisely what language must be on the sign. At a minimum, signs must be conspicuous and inform people that frearms and/or concealed handguns are prohibited. However, the law suggests that the prohibited locations post a sign that substantially says the following:
Unless otherwise authorized by law, pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code, no person shall knowingly possess, have under the person’s control, convey, or attempt to convey a deadly handgun or dangerous ordnance onto these premises.
An example of a standard warning sign approved for use on state buildings appears below. If you see this sign, it means that you cannot bring your concealed handgun inside. Businesses and persons wishing to post such signs are strongly advised to consult their legal counsel for language, style, format and placement. The sign is available to download from the Attorney General’s Web site at www.OhioAttorneyGeneral.gov(page 23) at no charge.

[West Chester]

FWIW I would rather carry my firearms into a hotel room than leave them in the car to be stolen.

[donm]

I visited my brother in Ohio a few weeks back and found it really carry-unfriendly. It might have been that when we visit we tend to go to places that are off limits: restaurants that serve alcohol, museums, etc. It's a must-inform-officer state, and a loaded magazine/speedloader anywhere in the vehicle "loads" that gun in the trunk. I left the gun locked up at my brother's place except when we went to the range.

[falcn]

Yes those signs are legal, and carry the weight of law.

Found this. But it doesn't really explain much. But this is the signage that I am seeing. I don't know if this is something you can just decide to put up.

ANYONE that owns property can put up signs preventing you from carrying onto their property - business, campground, etc. etc. So yes they can "just decide" to put them up. That's no different than here in PA where private property owners can bar you from carrying on their property.