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March 15th, 2010, 04:23 PM #11
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March 15th, 2010, 04:44 PM #12Grand Member
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Re: Need some info quick in regards to ID
But you may be arrested for failure to provide ID (verbal or document) if they can't (establish identity)
If someone calls for a MWAG...points to me....and I am asked for ID....I have a feeling cops aren't going to say "Ah, let him go, he won't talk"
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I am very curious about this too
I always assumed you had to identify yourself verbally (Name, DOB and address), but ONLY if detained/arrested. But if the cop did tell me that I WAS detained or arrested for something.... my next words would be "lawyer" anyways. So IMHO, I will never need to provide anything to an officer, unless driving, caught CC'ing, etc.sLast edited by BimmerJon; March 15th, 2010 at 04:47 PM.
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March 15th, 2010, 04:48 PM #13
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March 15th, 2010, 04:51 PM #14Grand Member
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Re: Need some info quick in regards to ID
Just typing my thoughts out here...
Non-detained, Non-arrested: You do not need to provide.
Traffic stop = detained
detained/arrested: You also do not NEED to provide it, hell you don't need to say anything.
right?
ok, but, can an officer arrest you simply for not being able to establish your identify while engaged in an investigative action (responding to MWAG)
If not.... can I just stand there EVEN when detained and choose to not identify myself verabaly?
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March 15th, 2010, 04:56 PM #15
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March 15th, 2010, 04:56 PM #16
Re: Need some info quick in regards to ID
Let's not lead people down the wrong path. How are you caught carrying concealed? If someone sees your firearm, you continue with what you were doing just as you were before. If your jacket blows open for the entire world to see what is hidden under it, you're now open carrying... which is legal.
So, there is no 'caught' in this sense especially if you read 'caught' as found out that you were doing something wrong/illegal.
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March 16th, 2010, 06:51 AM #17Member
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Re: Need some info quick in regards to ID
There is a fine line somewhere on this subject, it just needs to be found.(tested)
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March 16th, 2010, 08:45 AM #18
Re: Need some info quick in regards to ID
Can you all please help me understand something?
I'm just about as pro 2A as anyone else but I have a hard time understanding why, if someone is not doing anything wrong, why they would have a problem providing LE with their ID and LTCF if asked to do so.
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March 16th, 2010, 08:55 AM #19
Re: Need some info quick in regards to ID
If you're pro 2A then you already know the true intent of the 2A.
You will often hear that allowing law enforcement to demand your ID randomly is extending their reach into our lives and privacy. It's not hard for me to see that requests for, 'Your papers, please.' go hand in hand with an overly powerful controlling government. Just as the 2A was written to limit government to the consent of the governed there are/should be limits on where 'to protect and to serve' start and stop.
Demands for my ID when I've done nothing wrong and there is no RAS, is only letting them encroach even closer to the line in the sand.
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March 16th, 2010, 08:56 AM #20
Re: Need some info quick in regards to ID
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